MotoGP 2012

[Crasherfromwayback]

No.

The new Race Director is coming around my place tonight for a coupla beers.

Tell him CRT bikes suck arse.

[Oscar]

Tell him CRT bikes suck arse.

He'll tell you what he told me - that you can have four or five Ducatis or 22 CRT bikes on the grid.

In the meantime he hasn't turned up yet, and he's on my KTM....

[Crasherfromwayback]

He'll tell you what he told me - that you can have four or five Ducatis or 22 CRT bikes on the grid.

In the meantime he hasn't turned up yet, and he's on my KTM....

After 2010, and some of the best shit I've seen in a while, I'm happy with 18 odd full on GP bikes thanks all the same.

Opps. "I leant it to my mate..." Nek minnit.

[Trudes]

i dont mind him hes not my favourite rider my favourite rider is far from the front but has 1 world title to his name, Nicky Hayden he doesnt moan about shit just gets on with the job

I'm with you.
I Nicky.
And no, nothing to do with how he looks. He just seems like a really down to earth bloke who does it 'cause he loves it. I would love to see him up on the podium a bit more.

[slowpoke]

After 2010, and some of the best shit I've seen in a while, I'm happy with 18 odd full on GP bikes thanks all the same.

Trouble is 18 was a high point with several races with only 15 starters. Give it a couple more years (the GFC is going nowhere in a hurry) and it'd be down to a dozen....or less.....where do you say enough is enough and make some changes?

[cmoore]

here is an interesting perspective on 2012...http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/817/11...n-MotoGP-.aspx

[Crasherfromwayback]

Trouble is 18 was a high point with several races with only 15 starters. Give it a couple more years (the GFC is going nowhere in a hurry) and it'd be down to a dozen....or less.....where do you say enough is enough and make some changes?

here is an interesting perspective on 2012...http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/817/11...n-MotoGP-.aspx

Nodoby would argue that something had to happen. But basically trying to oust the factories ain't the way in my view.

[cs363]

In the meantime he hasn't turned up yet, and he's on my KTM....

I thought in your business you would understand risk....
It's those quiet guys that always cause trouble!

[Crasherfromwayback]

CRT ain't what it's all cracked up to be already...

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Jan/120127x.htm

[merv]

Yep, thank the greedy buggers of the world that sucked all the money to start this GFC in the first place. Now the money go round has slowed so no-one spends, so businesses go to the wall, sponsorship dries up all in a vicious circle.

[BMWST?]

so ..is a 220 or 250 hp bike unrideable WITHOUT electronics....

[DidJit]

Testing times dates.

[Crasherfromwayback]

so ..is a 220 or 250 hp bike unrideable WITHOUT electronics....

An 800cc one more than likely. Maybe a 1000cc one not so bad.

[slowpoke]

CRT ain't what it's all cracked up to be already...

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Jan/120127x.htm

The fact that rider's have to buy a ride is nothing new, that's been standard practice for years if you aren't a World Champion (insert class here) or close to it but some of the names being mentioned are a serious worry. CRT bikes are one thing but less than elite world class riders is something else again. A CRT team might enjoy the dosh they bring but without a decent rider they aren't doing anyone any favours.

so ..is a 220 or 250 hp bike unrideable WITHOUT electronics....

Nope, it's just slower around a track.

Nodoby would argue that something had to happen. But basically trying to oust the factories ain't the way in my view.

Trouble is the factories didn't offer a solution. If they'd been a lil' more agreeable to cost cutting options we wouldn't be in this situation. I would like to have seen the GP bikes stay but with a control ECU as per BSB, but the factories wouldn't have it. They've shot themselves in the foot....or have they? With the costs involved they may well be happy (behind the scenes) to have someone else give them a way out without losing face?

here is an interesting perspective on 2012...http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/817/11...n-MotoGP-.aspx

It's a bullshit article really. CE II has admitted to only riding at 65%, and some of the other teams are even earlier in development with inexperienced (at that level) riders at possibly the very first test and to compare that against qualifying and race times of guys who are highly familiar with their bikes isn't worth the pixels it's written with. Sure there's a big gap, but it's early days and testing is far different to racing.

He's got one thing right though: if I'd paid a coupla grand to fly to Mugello or some other iconic track and saw only 15 bikes on the grid I'd be farkin' pissed off. To put it another way, with the skinny grids as per last season and lack of competition I wouldn't even consider going and neither would many thousands of other potential spectators.

[cmoore]

seriously!?..not one comment about the money......$450mil Honda spent.......the numbers thrown around for the bikes and engines leaves a hell of a lot of money for something else......and if the ECU stories are true then there must be hundreds of computor programmers sitting somewhere writing software for different tracks, bikes, tyres, riders, weather, moon position, wind speed, temperature..etc