Dogs that attack - Is it the dog or the owner?

[Sliver]

i dont see how this is bike related but...

dog will act how there upbringing was, Same as people.

[dangerous]

dont get me started...

disclaimer: I have read the thread title only

[eliot-ness]

i never claimed i had a 150kg bull mastiff i said i had one upwards of 120kg


and yes. it was a purebred bull mastiff and i have never seen a bigger one to date.

Apologies for my mistake. The 150kgs was quoted by a previous poster. However, after checking out many kennel club records I still haven't found anything even approaching 120kgs for a pure bred Bull Mastiff.

[Virago]

Apologies for my mistake. The 150kgs was quoted by a previous poster. However, after checking out many kennel club records I still haven't found anything even approaching 120kgs for a pure bred Bull Mastiff.

I would think that someone is mixing up pounds and kilograms.

[Katman]

I would think that someone is mixing up pounds and kilograms.

Trent would probably mix up pounds and centimetres.

[TrentNz]

it was some years back now.

i like how KBers know everything, even my own dogs weight

[thecharmed01]

What about the parents?
I put all attacks solely on people, whether that be owners or people coming into contact with said dog.
If you came up to me and stated patting me on the head you you get more than a bite.

Most don't know the first thing about what goes though a dogs mind, it's a pack animal pure and simple.

And the dog that attacks people the most is the jack russell.

LOL
My daughter got nipped on the nose by a friends Jack Russel when she was two. She leant over to pat it.
Thankfully it was just a snap and not a proper bite.... and Mario was pretty quick to grab him. Gave us a fright as it was out of the blue.
No harm done though thankfully.

[ellipsis]

...dont get me started...

...ohh...c'mon D...

[dangerous]

Ok CAMSec you asked for it...

I dont like to see a particular breed singled out

well they are and will be... reason being IMO is the skin head fuck faced arse hole types that have a certain bread cos they suposedly look tough with them as the pit bull pulls hard in every direction the weed spoking cock on the other end thinking 'look at my dog hes so bloody strong' me 50kg hairless runt cant control him hes gona destroy the next kenworth that drives past... or the ones that let the dog run willy nilly around them as if to say 'dont fuck with me my dogs on the loose and about to destroy the next kenworth that drives past.

You might have gathered by now it farks me off no end that I have to pay big bucks to regester my dogs, have mad made foren eletronics emplanted in them and, having more than 1 dog I have another fee to pay every year.
The wee cunts that cause all the troubles and these fees etc are aimed at still and never will pay them so again the good responsable owner is penalised for no reasonable reason.

So singling out a bread is no worse than the new signs I have seen round town that say "no cars under a 1500kg allowd between the hours" singling out certain car drivers called boy homo racers... DONT get me started

[5150]

I think it is the owners who should have a license to own a dog. By showing their right attitude and knowledge of dog breeds and behaviour one wold prove mental competence to own and care for these lovely animals, no matter what breed. Unfortunately policing it would not be possible. So it is only a wish list

[hellokitty]

People also need to keep their damn dogs on leads - sick and tired of MY dog getting shit from little dogs with attitudes.
Little fuzzy dog that roams the neighbourhood ran down our drive the other day, ran up to My Hellokitty while he was sitting on the ground working on the car, and bit him then ran off WTF? Broke the skin too - he has popeye type arms - very muscular and beefy - if that was a child, it could have been nasty.

[Katman]

You might have gathered by now it farks me off no end that I have to pay big bucks to regester my dogs, have mad made foren eletronics emplanted in them and, having more than 1 dog I have another fee to pay every year.
The wee cunts that cause all the troubles and these fees etc are aimed at still and never will pay them so again the good responsable owner is penalised for no reasonable reason.

Doesn't that all sound soooo familiar?

[BoristheBiter]

I think it is the owners who should have a license to own a dog. By showing their right attitude and knowledge of dog breeds and behaviour one wold prove mental competence to own and care for these lovely animals, no matter what breed. Unfortunately policing it would not be possible. So it is only a wish list

And again like the micro chipping and dog registration is now, only the good owners will get done.

[Virago]

What about the parents?
I put all attacks solely on people, whether that be owners or people coming into contact with said dog...

Blaming the victim is the most common tactic used by the owners of unsafe dogs.

To put the situation in perspective, try a similar scenario. Instead of an agressive dog at my front gate, I perhaps put a loaded gun on the gate post. A small child passes, sees the gun, picks it up and accidentally shoots himself.

Who is to blame? According to dog owner's logic, it is the child's fault - and also the parent's fault for lack of supervision. I would then be able to absolve myself of responsibility, and wallow in self-interested grizzles about "my rights".

Other gun lovers could give their opinion - "It was also the gun owner's fault, punish him but don't unload the gun."...

The reality is dogs are like loaded guns - only worse. They're loaded guns with minds of their own.

They can't be 100% trusted, even by the owners.

[george formby]

Blaming the victim is the most common tactic used by the owners of unsafe dogs.

To put the situation in perspective, try a similar scenario. Instead of an agressive dog at my front gate, I perhaps put a loaded gun on the gate post. A small child passes, sees the gun, picks it up and accidentally shoots himself.

Who is to blame? According to dog owner's logic, it is the child's fault - and also the parent's fault for lack of supervision. I would then be able to absolve myself of responsibility, and wallow in self-interested grizzles about "my rights".

Other gun lovers could give their opinion - "It was also the gun owner's fault, punish him but don't unload the gun."...

The reality is dogs are like loaded guns - only worse. They're loaded guns with minds of their own.

They can't be 100% trusted, even by the owners.

True that. The Border Collie incident demonstrates it, it also demonstrates that awareness of this can prevent kids people / getting hurt.

If you have a gun you need a gun safe, if you have a dog you need a (metaphorical) dog safe.