Hmm. I've had a change of attitude on this hi-viz thing

[george formby]

I have one of these as my winter jacket and it is warm and waterproof and very comfortable but.... after wearing it for 4-5 months the yellow hi vis part (which is much brighter than the photo shows) has faded badly and I expect after another season it will have faded to the point of being useless.

Same thing happened to my top of the line fiercely lumo waterproofs I bought for commercial fishing. After 6 months it was a pastel yellow, useless for visibilty but still kept me dry.
This is something I would consider if buying a vest/jacket/strap on etc. How long will it be hi viz?

[MSTRS:Me]

Same thing happened to my top of the line fiercely lumo waterproofs I bought for commercial fishing. After 6 months it was a pastel yellow, useless for visibilty but still kept me dry.
This is something I would consider if buying a vest/jacket/strap on etc. How long will it be hi viz?

Is there something you're not telling us?

[cold comfort]

The scariest re this is that clearly the propaganda is starting to work.

Yep, a bit more of this "debate" and in no time there will be a queue just begging the govt to make it law.

[george formby]

Is there something you're not telling us?

I thought fluoro strap on's where quite popular

You know the ones, over the shoulder, across the chest & around the waist. the Feds used to use them over their leathers.

[chasio]

Something to consider

Great link, thanks. I clicked through to 'map your blind spot' and it was a bit worrying, to be frank. (NB The instructions are poor - they forget to tell you to do it at the right distance and with your left eye closed/covered, but this is explained in the related links).

What it really reinforced to me was the need to keep my eyes moving around the scene, not just looking along the road. Just like all road users do all the time, eh?

[Trade_nancy]

Helmets and seatbelts are a strawman argument. They have everything to do with personal injury mitigation and NOTHING to do with whether someone else sees you.
Hi-vis is all about being an un-natural spot of colour amongst a sea of colours, which *should*mean it stands out. It may or may not. The jury will always be out on that. For those that wish to wear it, all power to you - I choose not to - but be aware that fluro colours are very susceptible to UV fade, so if you do a lot of riding, better to use a cheap throw away vest rather than sewn-in panels on your expensive jacket.

Yes, some do fade VERY quickly too. The vest I picked up for $6 bucks is now toast...fluro effect is getting poor..and the velcro is stuffed...But I have a fluro "bib" type that I bought in 1984 for use while running at night with a club pack run...it is still reflective and highly visible. Unfortunately I can no longer get the the two end of the velcro straps to meet..due to increased girth.
I usually don't wear my fluro either...but that's just can't be bothered on the bike. At night by the way, the reflective component of the fluro vest comes into it's own - making the rider much more visible with flicks of light.

[MSTRS:Me]

Yes, some do fade VERY quickly too. The vest I picked up for $6 bucks is now toast...fluro effect is getting poor..and the velcro is stuffed...But I have a fluro "bib" type that I bought in 1984 for use while running at night with a club pack run...it is still reflective and highly visible. Unfortunately I can no longer get the the two end of the velcro straps to meet..due to increased girth.
I usually don't wear my fluro either...but that's just can't be bothered on the bike. At night by the way, the reflective component of the fluro vest comes into it's own - making the rider much more visible with flicks of light.

Eat less and run faster?
And not a lot of UV about at night...

[HenryDorsetCase]

don't think its a particularly great jacket, but the mil-spec yellow is likely to sear the eyeballs of all those who gaze upon it lol



http://rideicon.com/product_details....=3433&id=12266

fuck yeah! awesome!!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Same thing happened to my top of the line fiercely lumo waterproofs I bought for commercial fishing. After 6 months it was a pastel yellow, useless for visibilty but still kept me dry.
This is something I would consider if buying a vest/jacket/strap on etc. How long will it be hi viz?

"high viz strap on"


heh heh heh teehee

[GrayWolf]

"high viz strap on"


heh heh heh teehee

Now don't get all excited Henry, lmfao...


you beat me to it btw!

[willytheekid]

Interesting topic.
Last week I was siting in my car having the good old mrs macs steak and pepper pie, when something caught my eye in my peripheral vision (i mean really jumped out at me) it was a couple on a bike wearing high viz yellow helmets and man they stood out.
Can't be a bad thing surely?

Maybe if you & others focused more on driving instead of treating your car like a dinner table!, you would notice alot more things on the road and around you.
...do you see professional drivers/racers stuffing there face whilst in control of a vehicle?

OF COURSE NOT!, because its a lack of control and concentration...not to mention bloody stupid & dangerous to other road users!, yet we have thousands of vehicles going around with drivers stuffing there face's, applying make up, sorting music, calling there friends and generally not focusing on the road!

THIS is one of the REAL problems!, people using there mode of transport while distracted and unfocused!
....Maybe some REAL driver training when you apply for your licences would be great first step, But maybe the police/Govnt etc could actually start cracking down on motorists using their vehicals as dinner tables & mobile meeting rooms!...you know a shift to more of a "safety" type of focus...instead of a mostly "revenue" based/lick ACC's arse/have you payed your taxes?...type of focus.

...INSTEAD of making people wear bright clothing to attract the attention of distracted, Incompetant & unfocused drivers.

OHH Shit!...did we hit a motorcycle while typing this?....ehh, serves em right for not wearing Hi viz!

...now change the cd, open a coke, call sally and pass me some chips!..gots me some DRIVIN to do!!

ps: Will peddle bikes also be targeted?...cos Im with shane warne! (bout time these pricks payed for the privilege of road use like the rest of us!)

[HenryDorsetCase]

ps: Will peddle bikes also be targeted?...cos Im with shane warne! (bout time these pricks payed for the privilege of road use like the rest of us!)

I'm a mountainbiker so care not a whit.

[george formby]

I used to ride with a hi-viz helmet in the UK, fluoro orange, & yup, sticks out like the mutts nuts. You can see them over hedges, walls, over vehicles in traffic etc. Wish i still had it, my current helmet is quite dark.

[Trade_nancy]

Maybe if you & others focused more on driving instead of treating your car like a dinner table!, you would notice alot more things on the road and around you.
...do you see professional drivers/racers stuffing there face whilst in control of a vehicle?

OF COURSE NOT!, because its a lack of control and concentration...not to mention bloody stupid & dangerous to other road users!, yet we have thousands of vehicles going around with drivers stuffing there face's, applying make up, sorting music, calling there friends and generally not focusing on the road!

THIS is one of the REAL problems!, people using there mode of transport while distracted and unfocused!
....Maybe some REAL driver training when you apply for your licences would be great first step, But maybe the police/Govnt etc could actually start cracking down on motorists using their vehicals as dinner tables & mobile meeting rooms!...you know a shift to more of a "safety" type of focus...instead of a mostly "revenue" based/lick ACC's arse/have you payed your taxes?...type of focus.

...INSTEAD of making people wear bright clothing to attract the attention of distracted, Incompetant & unfocused drivers.

OHH Shit!...did we hit a motorcycle while typing this?....ehh, serves em right for not wearing Hi viz!

...now change the cd, open a coke, call sally and pass me some chips!..gots me some DRIVIN to do!!

ps: Will peddle bikes also be targeted?...cos Im with shane warne! (bout time these pricks payed for the privilege of road use like the rest of us!)

(S)he didn't mention they were DRIVING - maybe they were parked up and feeding. Every cop in the world does that...

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Maybe if you & others focused more on driving instead of treating your car like a dinner table!, you would notice alot more things on the road and around you.
...do you see professional drivers/racers stuffing there face whilst in control of a vehicle?

OF COURSE NOT!, because its a lack of control and concentration...not to mention bloody stupid & dangerous to other road users!, yet we have thousands of vehicles going around with drivers stuffing there face's, applying make up, sorting music, calling there friends and generally not focusing on the road!

THIS is one of the REAL problems!, people using there mode of transport while distracted and unfocused!
....Maybe some REAL driver training when you apply for your licences would be great first step, But maybe the police/Govnt etc could actually start cracking down on motorists using their vehicals as dinner tables & mobile meeting rooms!...you know a shift to more of a "safety" type of focus...instead of a mostly "revenue" based/lick ACC's arse/have you payed your taxes?...type of focus.

...INSTEAD of making people wear bright clothing to attract the attention of distracted, Incompetant & unfocused drivers.

OHH Shit!...did we hit a motorcycle while typing this?....ehh, serves em right for not wearing Hi viz!

...now change the cd, open a coke, call sally and pass me some chips!..gots me some DRIVIN to do!!

ps: Will peddle bikes also be targeted?...cos Im with shane warne! (bout time these pricks payed for the privilege of road use like the rest of us!)

Before you flood your panty liner mate I was not driving I was sitting on the side of the road.Thats why I said sitting in my car not driving.Maybe you have highlighted another problem. Its called SMIDCWIWRS (sorry mate i didn't comprehend what i was reading syndrome).