Fast-food outlet expansion sparks alarm

[scissorhands]

Looks like the poor and nameless are gonna get sicker, thanks gubbermint for screwing NZ's under-classes yet again

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=10785600

The rapid expansion of international fast-food businesses in some of Auckland's poorer areas has raised community concern.

Derek Battersby, chairman of the New Lynn-based Whau Local Board, is worried about Carl's Jr Restaurants opening in Avondale.

The chain, dubbed one of the world's worst for its menu, already has restaurants in Takanini and Glen Innes and Mr Battersby said this showed how it planned to target low-socio-economic areas.

Sue Kedgley, ex-Green MP and food campaigner, said it was a concern that global fast-food businesses were expanding so rapidly in New Zealand.

Wendy's is seeking 22 new outlets, Burger King is expanding fast, KFC has transformed 53 stores to make them more appealing to customers and now Carl's Jr is expanding.

That American-headquartered chain has a foot-long cheeseburger on its menu which has 850 calories and 20g of saturated fat, about twice as many calories as the controversial KFC Double Down described last year when it was sold in New Zealand as the super villain of fast food.

But All Black great Michael Jones, who has a stake in a franchise business for Carl's Jr here, has said healthy options were being offered.

Staff at the Carl's Jr Glen Innes restaurant said yesterday that the food was not fatty and that healthy and low-calorie, low-carbohydrate options were being offered.

[Scuba_Steve]

Looks like the poor and nameless are gonna get sicker, thanks gubbermint for screwing NZ's under-classes yet again

I'm confused, which one of the fast foods does the NZ Govt own??? or is it that they're taxing other foods to a price people just can't afford??? The Govt has nothing to do with it.

The only ones "screwing NZ under-classes" are the "health" crazies & their friends, simple as that

[BoristheBiter]

Looks like the poor and nameless are gonna get sicker, thanks gubbermint for screwing NZ's under-classes yet again

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=10785600

The rapid expansion of international fast-food businesses in some of Auckland's poorer areas has raised community concern.

Derek Battersby, chairman of the New Lynn-based Whau Local Board, is worried about Carl's Jr Restaurants opening in Avondale.

The chain, dubbed one of the world's worst for its menu, already has restaurants in Takanini and Glen Innes and Mr Battersby said this showed how it planned to target low-socio-economic areas.

Sue Kedgley, ex-Green MP and food campaigner, said it was a concern that global fast-food businesses were expanding so rapidly in New Zealand.

Wendy's is seeking 22 new outlets, Burger King is expanding fast, KFC has transformed 53 stores to make them more appealing to customers and now Carl's Jr is expanding.

That American-headquartered chain has a foot-long cheeseburger on its menu which has 850 calories and 20g of saturated fat, about twice as many calories as the controversial KFC Double Down described last year when it was sold in New Zealand as the super villain of fast food.

But All Black great Michael Jones, who has a stake in a franchise business for Carl's Jr here, has said healthy options were being offered.

Staff at the Carl's Jr Glen Innes restaurant said yesterday that the food was not fatty and that healthy and low-calorie, low-carbohydrate options were being offered.

So you only want fast food/restaurants/takeaways that you approve of?

Why is it the government fault if people choose to eat there?

If the government banned these wouldn't you be crying nanny state?

[BoristheBiter]

I'm confused, which one of the fast foods does the NZ Govt own??? or is it that they're taxing other foods to a price people just can't afford??? The Govt has nothing to do with it.

The only ones "screwing NZ under-classes" are the "health" crazies & their friends, simple as that

One, if not both, needs more beer we are agreeing.

[oneofsix]

I'm confused, which one of the fast foods does the NZ Govt own??? or is it that they're taxing other foods to a price people just can't afford??? The Govt has nothing to do with it.

The only ones "screwing NZ under-classes" are the "health" crazies & their friends, simple as that

yeah looks like scissors bought the Fairfax spin line. FFS Maccas 1st opened in Porirua "targeting" the poor and how long ago was that! What I noticed at the time was it gave the lower income earners a place they could afford to go for a treat.

[Gremlin]

Fast food chains are businesses. Businesses want to turn a profit, so they go where their customers are. From the queues in the drive thru at most places (and not just low socio-economic areas) their predictions are going well.

How those jokers don't understand businesses going where their customers are, beggars belief. You want it? You buy it. Don't fucken complain how bad it is, and some people want to eat it once in a while (I've been to Carls Jr once in Takanini)...

gah.

[SMOKEU]

The rapid expansion of international fast-food businesses in some of Auckland's poorer areas has raised community concern.

how it planned to target low-socio-economic areas.

What has the poor areas got to do with anything?

[Scuba_Steve]

One, if not both, needs more beer we are agreeing.

na just one... you've got some catching up to do with my Vodka fuelled insanity, I'd suggest switching to something with alcohol in it

I guess everyone has something they can agree on

[steve_t]

Again comes the fine line between social responsibility and personal responsibility. The line sits in a different place for everyone. On one hand, people need to have the freedom to choose for themselves. On the other hand, people are stupid and need to be protected from themselves and the sometimes detrimental choices they make

[BoristheBiter]

na just one... you've got some catching up to do with my Vodka fuelled insanity, I'd suggest switching to something with alcohol in it

I guess everyone has something they can agree on

crap I better head home now.

[oneofsix]

Again comes the fine line between social responsibility and personal responsibility. The line sits in a different place for everyone. On one hand, people need to have the freedom to choose for themselves. On the other hand, people are stupid and need to be protected from themselves and the sometimes detrimental choices they make

The problem I have with that is that often those so called "detrimental choices they make" advance society. Like don't play with steam it burns or Stay away from oil it messes your clothes up.

[Scuba_Steve]

On the other hand, people are stupid and need to be protected from themselves and the sometimes detrimental choices they make

No they don't, one mans stupid is another mans genius. Unless they lack the mental ability to think for themselves leave them alone. I dread the day when someones going to use that exact "logic" to ban bikes, after all riding bikes is a "dangerous activity", "bikers must be stupid to voluntarily partake in such a dangerous activity", "bikers need to be saved from themselves" It will happen eventually

[HenryDorsetCase]

Looks like the poor and nameless are gonna get sicker, thanks gubbermint for screwing NZ's under-classes yet again

Please explain this statement. In particular, your answer should focus on how an entirely legal tax paying locally owned business which provides a non compulsory product which people desire equates to "the gubbermint screwing NZ's under classes"?

Repugnant as the product is, as terrible as the food like substances are, they would not be put anywhere if they did not make a profit. The easiest way for people to express their disappointment at the offerings by these places is to NOT GODDAMN PATRONISE THEM. Easy.

[Gremlin]

On the other hand, people are stupid and need to be protected from themselves and the sometimes detrimental choices they make

Please watch something like Frozen Planet, screening on TV1 Tuesday evenings I think.

Mother Nature doesn't protect anything. If too many babies are born, some die through natural selection because there isn't enough food to feed every mouth. The weaker ones die. Some babies have to compete with each other to get the mother's food... ergo, the weak one dies. If they fail to find adequate shelter, they die. In short, if you're weak or screw up... you die.

It's brutal, but sometimes I really wish humanity could be a bit more like that. Stop protecting the weak, and as long as the detrimental choices are not impacting others adversely, then leave them to it.

[steve_t]

No they don't, one mans stupid is another mans genius. Unless they lack the mental ability to think for themselves leave them alone. I dread the day when someones going to use that exact "logic" to ban bikes, after all riding bikes is a "dangerous activity", "bikers must be stupid to voluntarily partake in such a dangerous activity", "bikers need to be saved from themselves" It will happen eventually

Nice work selectively omitting the bit where I said "On one hand, people need to have the freedom to choose for themselves."

Please watch something like Frozen Planet, screening on TV1 Tuesday evenings I think.

Mother Nature doesn't protect anything. If too many babies are born, some die through natural selection because there isn't enough food to feed every mouth. The weaker ones die. Some babies have to compete with each other to get the mother's food... ergo, the weak one dies. If they fail to find adequate shelter, they die. In short, if you're weak or screw up... you die.

It's brutal, but sometimes I really wish humanity could be a bit more like that. Stop protecting the weak, and as long as the detrimental choices are not impacting others adversely, then leave them to it.

The choice to be unhealthy does/can affect others adversely when society has a public health system funded by taxpayers.