Is it too late to return my helmet?

[OwlCat]

Hi everyone,

I bought a new helmet a couple of weeks ago, as the one that came with the scooter (off TM) "looked like it was from the 80's and is probably damaged. You should get a new one." (guy from scooter store)

I had a look at open face ones, being a new rider, I didn't know if there was any diff safety-wise between open and full face helmets. I asked at the store. The guy who served me said "there's been no statistics."

Since then, I've heard completely otherwise and I've heard open-face ones referred to as 'chin graters'. This makes me very nervous.

I want to return it under false pretences, but I've already scratched it a bit and I hate making a fuss over stuff like this. Plus I don't know if they would accept it. And I've been in their store what feels like every other day this past fortnight, so will feel like a cabbage.

Advice?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hi everyone,

I bought a new helmet a couple of weeks ago, as the one that came with the scooter (off TM) "looked like it was from the 80's and is probably damaged. You should get a new one." (guy from scooter store)

I had a look at open face ones, being a new rider, I didn't know if there was any diff safety-wise between open and full face helmets. I asked at the store. The guy who served me said "there's been no statistics."

Since then, I've heard completely otherwise and I've heard open-face ones referred to as 'chin graters'. This makes me very nervous.

I want to return it under false pretences, but I've already scratched it a bit and I hate making a fuss over stuff like this. Plus I don't know if they would accept it. And I've been in their store what feels like every other day this past fortnight, so will feel like a cabbage.

Advice?

First of all...you're a naughty girl for not looking after your new helmet properly! Next...once worn (and scratched) I don't really think they have to take it back. I'm guessing you've been dealing with Motorad?

Carl (the owner) is a very fair guy though if my guess is correct.

Pete

Wellington Motorcycles

[BigAl]

Yes probably too late as they wouldn't be able to sell it as new, although worth asking if you can trade it in on another.

If you are just riding a scooter around town I wouldn't worry too much about a full face helmet, back in the 70s and earlier open face helmets were very popular on road and off road bikes.

[OwlCat]

I know I am unworthy.

I've been dealing with Scooterazzi. I figured they probably wouldn't take it back. I've been considering just selling and buying a new one

[James Deuce]

No one wants your scratched, second-hand helmet. Those that do, please queue to the right.

[oneofsix]

No one wants your scratched, second-hand helmet. Those that do, please queue to the right.

That should read that "No one should want", someone will. At least she saw sense and bought new.
Open faced helmets have a rep of being a good way to lose your chin but I suspect that refers more to using an open face helmet at highway speeds rather than around town on a scooter. Not being a scooter rider I imagine it is somewhat hard to end up face first on the road from a scooter at less than 50k.

[Edbear]

I know I am unworthy.

I've been dealing with Scooterazzi. I figured they probably wouldn't take it back. I've been considering just selling and buying a new one

Go in and cry on Mark's shoulder, I've heard he's a softy. Could be wrong though...

[Crasherfromwayback]

I know I am unworthy.

I've been dealing with Scooterazzi. I figured they probably wouldn't take it back. I've been considering just selling and buying a new one

Go in and cry on Mark's shoulder, I've heard he's a softy. Could be wrong though...

Go and see Mark. He's a good guy and will be as fair as anyone can be.

[MSTRS:Me]

If you are just riding a scooter around town I wouldn't worry too much about a full face helmet, back in the 70s and earlier open face helmets were very popular on road and off road bikes.

You think the road won't do damage to a face at <50kph?
To be fair, in the 70s and before, open face was mostly what was available. The early full faces (Bell?) were heavy and liable to cause broken necks.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You think the road won't do damage to a face at <50kph?
To be fair, in the 70s and before, open face was mostly what was available. The early full faces (Bell?) were heavy and liable to cause broken necks.

Yeah fuck that. I know people that've lost more than a few teeth at lower speeds.

[avgas]

Talk very nicely to the shop you bought the helmet off. Say that you understand why they wont take it back and explain you can't afford another.
Perhaps they could do you another helmet at cost?

[Paul in NZ]

Sigh - don't over think it. Yes - its unreasonable to ask the store to take it back but you aint gunna die wearing it. Yes - there is some increase in risk of a facial injury but horses for courses. Vicki and I regularly use open face helmets around our village and prefer an full face on the open road. Mind you my face is as attractive as an inside out gerbil so a good road surface sanding might improve it.

[BigAl]

You think the road won't do damage to a face at <50kph?
To be fair, in the 70s and before, open face was mostly what was available. The early full faces (Bell?) were heavy and liable to cause broken necks.

Yeah then how come no one wears a full face on a bicycle?

I regularly can manage more than 50 kph and have you ever watched cycle racing, it's all about a perceived risk trading off with comfort and practicality.

So open face helmets are fine for scooters.

[MSTRS:Me]

Yeah then how come no one wears a full face on a bicycle?

Really? What about all those people doing MTB, downhill etc

So open face helmets are fine for scooters.

Actually, open face helmets are legal. Even the silly pudding bowls that are seen on some 'hard men'...
The level of protection that anyone (treadly, scooter, proper bike) chooses, is their affair.
Still doesn't change the fact that a full face offers better protection than the alternative/s.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Hi everyone,

I bought a new helmet a couple of weeks ago, as the one that came with the scooter (off TM) "looked like it was from the 80's and is probably damaged. You should get a new one." (guy from scooter store)

I had a look at open face ones, being a new rider, I didn't know if there was any diff safety-wise between open and full face helmets. I asked at the store. The guy who served me said "there's been no statistics."

Since then, I've heard completely otherwise and I've heard open-face ones referred to as 'chin graters'. This makes me very nervous.

I want to return it under false pretences, but I've already scratched it a bit and I hate making a fuss over stuff like this. Plus I don't know if they would accept it. And I've been in their store what feels like every other day this past fortnight, so will feel like a cabbage.

Advice?

keep the half face for a pot plant holder, go back to the shop and ask (nicely) the manager or owner for a discount on a full face helmet, after explaining the situation and reminding them you bought a bike off them two weeks ago. That way its their call: they either get a customer for life happy to refer new peeps to them, or you never darken their door again. be polite, firm, and businesslike.

If they dont come to the partay, go see Mr Crasher from Wellington Motorcycles and tell him Kiwibiker sent you......

he might give you coffee if you play your cards right, and a deal on a [s]Harley[/s] helmet.