Kim Dotcom interview with JC

**avgas** · 2nd March 2012, 14:33

Yeah I have to admit I think its pretty poor they try and pull this shit here. Video and Music industry need to get their shit sorted rather than just doing secret handshakes to take down the likes of KDC.

Here is a paper I did a while ago at how the music industry is shot to hell and needs to wake up to the idea they can't just stomp their feet and say "its no fair anymore".

http://blindmanagement.blogspot.co.n...-industry.html

**Big Dave** · 2nd March 2012, 15:03

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

idiot.

Self righteous twat much?

Sounds like you indignantly justifying what you knew to be infringing downloads to yourself.

**Big Dave** · 2nd March 2012, 15:05

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

The ones taking money from the artists are the record/studio labels

The difference is they do it with the artist's consent.

**SimJen** · 2nd March 2012, 15:17

Originally Posted by Big Dave

The difference is they do it with the artist's consent.

Haha, not always. Plenty of bands in the 80's/90's ripped off bigtime by labels!

**HenryDorsetCase** · 2nd March 2012, 15:43

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Sounds like you indignantly justifying what you knew to be infringing downloads to yourself.

Nah, I had a bad morning. I feel kind of bad for jumping on that guy but whatever, its the internets and I'm an asshole.

In terms of downloads, I don't download music. I do infringe copyright by ripping CD's to my HDD and then listening to them on my portable devices (yes Virginia, that shit is unlawful in EnZed, there is no "Fair use" exemption such as even the fascist state of Mrky has). I am a paying member of emusic, and I buy CD's from all over the world. I also pay download or get free downloads from artist's sites.

As for TV, I download that shit all day every day. If that makes me a hypocrite, so be it. My motivation is that I want to watch that shit when I want to watch it, not when the shaved chimps want to show it to me, so fuck them. Monetise it, make it a pay service at a reasonable price and I am all up in that shit. You know, like say Netflix, or Hulu.

Films, no. I'd rather wait a bit and buy the DVD or blu ray (basically the filesizes at decent quality are too expensive and slow here).

What really gripes me is that powerful vested commercial interests, instead of adapting to forever changed climate, embracing that, and learning how to make money from it, have inveigled legislative intervention. It is the classic Ozymandias hubris, and it gets my goat.

so, uh, there.

**Brett** · 2nd March 2012, 15:45

What an interesting interview. He is incredibly well spoken and well informed. He also puts his arguement forward very well. He has certainly swung my view. US authorities trying to make a statement with an easy target.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 2nd March 2012, 15:46

Originally Posted by Big Dave

The difference is they do it with the artist's consent.

Oh come on! You've been round long enough to know that the history of the music business is the history of rich fat bastards ripping off talented people.

The way to make money in the music business is touring, and T shirts. physical media are a loss leader to get punters to a show. For consumers this is great. Not so for (say) Crosby Stills and Nash who instead of waiting for their royalty cheques every quarter have to get off their chuffs and tour again.

**george formby** · 2nd March 2012, 15:47

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

It is the classic Ozymandias hubris, and it gets my goat.

so, uh, there.

Ain't heard that for a while

Yup, if I could download what I want safely & quickly for a couple of sheckels, I would be in like a rat up a drain pipe. Times that by a few 100 million & it's win win.

**Big Dave** · 2nd March 2012, 15:54

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

Oh come on! You've been round long enough to know that the history of the music business is the history of rich fat bastards ripping off talented people.

The way to make money in the music business is touring, and T shirts. physical media are a loss leader to get punters to a show. For consumers this is great. Not so for (say) Crosby Stills and Nash who instead of waiting for their royalty cheques every quarter have to get off their chuffs and tour again.

I don't think so - Not any more. The are plenty of stories of failed promoters and tours over here. Perhaps unless you are one of the acts anointed by the labels, still. The promotional Catch-22.

Self-publishing like (dare we say) 'Prince' and his ilk, or (shudder) corporate funding (OK Go) seems like the money model now. But as it's always done, it basically depends on talent.

**JimO** · 2nd March 2012, 15:59

his wife is a hottie as well

**Big Dave** · 2nd March 2012, 16:00

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

and it gets my goat.

I bet it doesn't get your goat as much as sweating blood over an original creative effort and then have someone use it without permission. It's not entirely about the money.

**SMOKEU** · 2nd March 2012, 16:06

The only reason he got arrested is because the jews are out to get him. The big music companies are run by jews, John Key is a jew and Kim is German.

**Big Dave** · 2nd March 2012, 16:06

Originally Posted by george formby

download what I want safely & quickly for a couple of sheckels, I would be in like a rat up a drain pipe. Times that by a few 100 million & it's win win.

So what is stopping you? There are numerous options.