Kim Dotcom interview with JC

[HenryDorsetCase]

The issue for me is the emerging artists who make a small amount from their three minute song (or Filmakers, writers, or doodle artists) - and don't get an opportunity to make another one because they were ripped off on a download site.
That punter could legally buy the one song for a buck or two now.

the converse of that of course is the struggling unknown artist who gets a song used in a TV show, or movie. They instantly get a bunch of new fans, opportunities to tour, and maybe sell a few rekkids.: two examples: Bic Runga (they used "Sway" in that movie), and my current favourite artist: Mr Rench. Rench wrote the theme song for the TV show JUSTIFIED and i like it so much I have gotten his CD (emusic) and have been spreading the word (including in the music threads here and the other boards I am on). He would never have come on my radar otherwise, and hopefully he has gained a few fans because of it.

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I was tempted to nick something off your site and post it here but you're a fair bit bigger than me, and you might not see the humour in it. I do see your point of view, and I dont have the answers. And as a sometime producer of original content (which I have seen used by others without permission) I get both sides of the argument. What I do think is that it won't be solved in this legislative framework, and any record label or whatever that does sort this stuff out will be the leader of the new world. In the meantime, they criminalise potential customers, which just can't be good business sense.

[Katman]

well, from a manufacturers perspective, isnt that the point?

Does it make it morally right? (From the point of view of an individual trying to make a living).

Imagine the cost to an independant private workshop requiring manuals for every bike made.

[psykonosis]

It's amazing to watch as the events continue to unfold. The whole concept in New Zealand innocent until proven guilty seems be fall short when the USA claims they want to extradite a NZ resident and in doing so strip one of all their possessions. People may argue that he is a pirate but he had setup the site for a legitimate reason, to share large files. I'm sure anyone here in NZ that has tried to send a large file attachment via email can relate to what Kim talks about. The other thing in NZ is that our bandwidth is so slow it can take ages for us to get a response saying that the email wasn't able to send. Does that mean youtube and icloud and microsoft have to start watching out for the services they provide? He's got a good attitude to fight the allegations, doesn't come across as what the media describe him as. With the legal team behind him he's keen to fight this all the way!

[Big Dave]

isn't the massive growth in pay download sites evidence for the proposition that most people, most of the time dont want to be criminals, or to rip off struggling artists? As I have said, (about music) I go out of my way to buy stuff when I could download it for nothing more than the cost of the internet connection. I love my rock and roll and I want the people who make it to be able to continue to make it.

I agree - I don't think that's what we are discussing.
And as I said - it depends on the price of one's conscience.

[Big Dave]

not realistic, not cross platform, not available in New Zealand. (referring to my recent emusic experiences.)

You just have to be smarter than the computer. :-)

[Katman]

People need to see that this is extending way beyond music and movies.

There are many people disadvantaged by the knee jerk prohibition response, that don't deserve to be.

[hayd3n]

i see this in the same light as i see a shipping company or storage company
they provide the service
but they have hardly any idea what is in the containers /ship and if there was illegal stuff in them its the resposibility of the content owner/sender not the freight company /storage holder

[Berries]

Having just watched the interview I have done a complete 180. From not giving a shit about some fat kraut pirate I now think that, if everything he said was true, the NZ Government should be fucking ashamed of kowtowing to the USA. Fuckers.


And for a German he came across quite well.

[Virago]

Having just watched the interview I have done a complete 180. From not giving a shit about some fat kraut pirate I now think that, if everything he said was true, the NZ Government should be fucking ashamed of kowtowing to the USA. Fuckers...

It was the price we paid for The Hobbit. Good deal, eh?

[scumdog]

Having just watched the interview I have done a complete 180. From not giving a shit about some fat kraut pirate I now think that, if everything he said was true, the NZ Government should be fucking ashamed of kowtowing to the USA. Fuckers.


And for a German he came across quite well.

'Don't mention the war

I did once - I think I got away with it'

You would think with all those brains he would figure out what made him into Mr Blimp Zeppilin.

[Big Dave]

i see this in the same light as i see a shipping company or storage company
they provide the service
but they have hardly any idea what is in the containers /ship and if there was illegal stuff in them its the resposibility of the content owner/sender not the freight company /storage holder

Hmmm - that makes sense too. It's the user's call.

[riffer]

i see this in the same light as i see a shipping company or storage company
they provide the service
but they have hardly any idea what is in the containers /ship and if there was illegal stuff in them its the resposibility of the content owner/sender not the freight company /storage holder

That's a fairly interesting analogy.

Say for example you intended to smuggle 100kgs of heroin into the country hidden inside some furniture, for example. Customs find it at the docks, and DB Schenker owners are arrested because their company arranged the shipping to New Zealand.

Doesn't work that way does it?

[PeeJay]

Hmmm - that makes sense too. It's the user's call.

Exactly. When they find drugs/whatever being sent via the postal system do they shut the post office and arrest the postman?

Safety deposit boxes in banks, full of dodgy stuff,

The yanks are having a go at an Aussie guy as well, sold some bits and pieces to an Iranian guy

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politi...301-1u5yu.html

[jaffaonajappa]

Last year Megaupload started trialing Mega Box a new music distribution service with a twist
from KDC interview
That is, MegaUpload was planning to offer 90 percent of revenues back to artists, even on free downloads. Which sort of fits into a very shady revenue model that actually paid uploaders based on the number of subsequent downloads received. "We have a solution called the MegaKey that will allow artists to earn income from users who download music for free," Dotcom outlined. "Yes that's right, we will pay artists even for free downloads. The MegaKey business model has been tested with over a million users and it works."

With MegaBox the uploaders will be the artists themselves.
Imagine if this caught on

KDC' opinion of the major labels

"These guys think an iPad is a facial treatment, the internet is the devil, and wired phones are still hip," Schmitz blasted. "They are in denial about the new realities and opportunities. They don't understand that the rip-off days are over. Artists are more educated than ever about how they are getting ripped off and how the big labels only look after themselves."

Interesting post.
I imagine the MPAA(?) and music distributors would be very interested in finding a way to prevent this. Their middle-man funding would disappear overnight otherwise.

Oh wait. Perhaps they found a way.....

[Big Dave]

I was tempted to nick something off your site and post it here but you're a fair bit bigger than me, and you might not see the humour in it.

I don't put anything online I would mind a friend using or someone getting benefit from. It is nice to asked, but not obligatory.

When I have been paid a fee for it and a publisher still owns the rights, then it pisses me off if they are undermined by seeing it republished without permission. But I don't put it online in that case.

Speaking of - check this! - I scored the lead story in this month's Heavy Duty Mag.


Heavy Duty Cover = Lead Story by BD by Big Daves Pics, on Flickr

Chuffed as a chuffed thing on national chuffing day.