TVNZ 7 - Government misleads again

[Usarka]

I caught this on Mediawatch on nat radio in the weekend and here: http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/media-mathematics/

Last year the government in the form of then broadcasting minister Jonathan Coleman either intentionally or incompetently mislead the public by saying the weekly ratings were only 207,000. These figures were given to the herald to publish and justify the closure of the channel this coming June.

In reality the figure is more like 1.4 million.


Yes we know the Herald doesn't check facts, and that politicians are incompetent and/or lie, but really - wtf? Surely now the truth is out that we'll see the decision to close TVNZ 7 reversed. No - that's assuming that the government cares about quality educational broadcasting. And don't call me shirley.

I wish the cock and balls that I'd drawn on my voting paper had won the election. Sometimes I think they did....

[pete376403]

Johnathon Coleman no doubt learned Dodgy Statistics Manipulation 101 from Nick Smith.

[Headbanger]

According to that link its 1.4 million in the month of December, which is 250 000 thousand a week, I would believe a difference of 43 000 viewers a week on different months is entirely plausible so its doesn't discredit the figure put forward, It reinforces it.

Having said that, if a channel can't pay its own way via advertising revenue then I'm all for dumping it, that goes for the darky channels and TV2 as well.

[slofox]

that's assuming that the government cares about quality educational broadcasting.

It doesn't...

[SPman]

An infomercial channel is FAR more important than an information channel.........thank god we've got SBS and the ABC - not perfect, but a 1000 times better than the shit that passes for TV in NZ these days.....

[Usarka]

According to that link its 1.4 million in the month of December, which is 250 000 thousand a week, I would believe a difference of 43 000 viewers a week on different months is entirely plausible so its doesn't discredit the figure put forward, It reinforces it.

Having said that, if a channel can't pay its own way via advertising revenue then I'm all for dumping it, that goes for the darky channels and TV2 as well.

Read the link. Dividing the monthly figure by 4 might seem intuitive but that's not how the stats work. It's what the minister did and it's plain wrong - even according to Nielsen who are the ratings experts.

Meanwhile...... taxpayers shell out $1.6 million to NZ's Got Talent through NZ on Air. Wtf?

[Headbanger]

Meh, It works for me.

Good riddance TV7

[Headbanger]

Meanwhile...... taxpayers shell out $1.6 million to NZ's Got Talent through NZ on Air. Wtf?

That does indeed suck.

Though I have no idea what NZ's got talent maybe.

My understanding is that NZ on Air puts up the coin for production and then gets it back in the event they make a profit.

Personally I'd line all the fuckers up, shoot them, pocket the 1.6m

[Ender EnZed]

According to that link its 1.4 million in the month of December, which is 250 000 thousand a week

You didn't read the link.

[Headbanger]

You didn't read the link.

I read up to the point where it said you couldn't just divide a month by 4 weeks and I thought, of course you fucking can, so I did.

Both sides will twist anything and everything in their favour, and at the end of the day its about money.....

[Usarka]

There is no "twisting" apart from the minister.

Nielsen who are the authoritative experts at TV viewer stats agree that the 207,000 figure is "rubbish".

[puddytat]

I read up to the point where it said you couldn't just divide a month by 4 weeks and I thought, of course you fucking can, so I did.

Both sides will twist anything and everything in their favour, and at the end of the day its about money.....

No its fucking not! Its about the dumbing down of society in general by paying just the minimum of time to important issues so that the other "Womans Weekly" crap that is TV1 & TV3 can fit in more ads,not to mention the propaganda of the Murdoch crew et al...
Watch TVNZ 7 for a change dick, & you might learn something that you wont see anywhere else. Or do you like to remain ignorant & get your news from Talkback radio?
We pay so much for so much other crap, why not atleast spend some money on educating our people instead of ripping them off.....Oh thats right you dumb lot voted then in.....no wonder we're fucked. Rant Over.

[Ender EnZed]

I read up to the point where it said you couldn't just divide a month by 4 weeks and I thought, of course you fucking can, so I did.

The number that is in question is of unique viewers. Dividing a month by 4 weeks would only give you a correct number if no one has watched TVNZ 7 on more than one week out the month. Which is extremely unlikely.

[Headbanger]

No its fucking not! Its about the dumbing down of society in general .

Society has always been dumb.

We are probably at our most enlightened period in history,and as a collective we are still manipulated by a pack of useless cunts.

Which only shows us where we stand in the greats scheme of things, I suggest you look after yourself and those you care about and stop giving a fuck about a shitty TV show and quit pretending you have a voice.

Outside your circle you don't matter, Dick.

[oneofsix]

Society has always been dumb.

We are probably at our most enlightened period in history,and as a collective we are still manipulated by a pack of useless cunts.

Which only shows us where we stand in the greats scheme of things, I suggest you look after yourself and those you care about and stop giving a fuck about a shitty TV show and quit pretending you have a voice.

Outside your circle you don't matter, Dick.

Is society dumb? Its individual members aren't although the powers that be like to treat them that way. Those powers are are smart and use smart people to manipulate society. look at this site and you will find people that still believe the ACC lies. Then those that believe the law is the law so must be right even though the laws are made by the same people this thread and the ACC threads are bitching about and lord help you if you suggest otherwise.
No. Society isn't dumb, some of its members are and like an empty can they make a lot of noise, but eventually, overtime, the general smartness of society wins slowly, a little at a time. Society is no longer a group of serfs, smurfs perhaps