Police target motorcyclists in another safety campaign

[Bassmatt]

How eloquent. The fact remains that the coppers are usually there to assist us and to enforce the law. I'm happy with that.

Good law shouldnt need to be "enforced"

en·force (n-fôrs, -frs)
tr.v. en·forced, en·forc·ing, en·forc·es
1. To compel observance of or obedience to
2. To impose (a kind of behavior, for example)
3. To give force to; reinforce

[mossy1200]

How is it not revenue gathering?

If you have a registered bike with current warrent of fitness and are wearing a approved helmet no revenue has been gathered.

If thats not acceptable FORKIN walk from A to B.

[mossy1200]

Good law shouldnt need to be "enforced"

Dont kill people is a good law.I dont think we should stop enforcing that one.

[Nzpure]

You think that its unreasonable to check if someone has a licence,is riding a bike thats not been stolen and the vehicle is fit to share the road with your friends and family.

You consider having these checks being detained.

I consider it a 5min inconvience every so often.
Perhaps stopping for red lights can be classed being arbitrarily detained also.

Stopping at lights is not arbitrary to ensure and even flow of traffic.
If no obvious cause is given for being pulled over then yes. Check points and the like is a bit of a grey area, But technically most people stopped at check points are having the rights breached.
Wof's are there for the purpose of ensuring that vehicles are fit for the road. If its too hard for police (which i imagine it is) to check whether a car is road legal via there sticker, Maybe cop cars should be fitted with a camera the cross references every number plate in view with the LTNZ database then throws a red flag up for said vehicle. The tech would be there already. Surely it would mean less work for everyone. Im sure cops just love standing in the rain at check points.
Breath alcohol monitors can be fitted to cars to ensure the vehicle cannot be started if the driver is intoxicated. There are thousands of methods to avoid and breach of rights.

For the record, i have no issue with spot checks or check points. I just like to argue

[Bassmatt]

Dont kill people is a good law.I dont think we should stop enforcing that one.

How can you enforce someone to not do something? 99.9% of people comply by choice. Dont confuse punishment of law breaking with enforcement of laws they are not the same thing.

[Nzpure]

How can you enforce someone to not do something?

Kill em all a let {Insert preferred deity here} sort them out

[Maha]

How is it not revenue gathering?

I refer you to post #14 and mossy's post below?

If you have a registered bike with current warrent of fitness and are wearing a approved helmet no revenue has been gathered.

If thats not acceptable FORKIN walk from A to B.

Fickle lot at times...where is that wall....

[Crasherfromwayback]

yet if he was licenced "cocksucker" & the bike was too, he would have rode off into the "sunset on your pride and joy" even going through the cops (bet you'd be happy about that). Your using abit of scarecrow there mate

Nah. I just have no problem at all being pulled over for a few minutes and are quite happy for them to do so.

[mossy1200]

Stopping at lights is not arbitrary to ensure and even flow of traffic.
If no obvious cause is given for being pulled over then yes. Check points and the like is a bit of a grey area, But technically most people stopped at check points are having the rights breached.
Wof's are there for the purpose of ensuring that vehicles are fit for the road. If its too hard for police (which i imagine it is) to check whether a car is road legal via there sticker, Maybe cop cars should be fitted with a camera the cross references every number plate in view with the LTNZ database then throws a red flag up for said vehicle. The tech would be there already. Surely it would mean less work for everyone. Im sure cops just love standing in the rain at check points.
Breath alcohol monitors can be fitted to cars to ensure the vehicle cannot be started if the driver is intoxicated. There are thousands of methods to avoid and breach of rights.

For the record, i have no issue with spot checks or check points. I just like to argue

Fair call ill get my warrent and registration enlarged to A4 size and provide lights so they can be seen while im riding plus get a breath testing ignition and tattoo my name and address on my neck so it can be seen while im riding instead of pull over for 5mins once a year or less.


That will teach them that im not prepaired to do my share to keep the people around me as safe as possible unless it can be done without any inconvience to my self serving ultra ego.

[Nzpure]

Fair call ill get my warrent and registration enlarged to A4 size and provide lights so they can be seen while im riding plus get a breath testing ignition and tattoo my name and address on my neck so it can be seen while im riding instead of pull over for 5mins once a year or less.


That will teach them that im not prepaired to do my share to keep the people around me as safe as possible unless it can be done without any inconvience to my self serving ultra ego.

All i can say to your comment is better displayed in the emote.....

Digital number recognition software is widely available. Wouldn't be that hard to get fitted.

[kevie]

hhhmmmmm is soley targeting motorcyclists bordering on discrimination by singling out a single group???........ read an article recently that Aussy had set up testing stations for motorcycles and the human rights gurus deemed them illegal as they targeted one people group and left all the rest alone ...... yay lets all complain were discriminated against ...... yeh right LMAO

They would be better stopping all the cages and lecturing them on not running us bikers off the road (or into the road as the case might be)

I think its a discrete way of finding how many are not registering their bikes in protest, guess they have to get revenue somehow to pay for these flash new prisons with the mod cons in them.

[Ender EnZed]

I'd be tempted to put my flip flops and hot pants on just to see what they said.

+1

And a pie inside the visor.

[Str8 Jacket]

Dont kill people is a good law.I dont think we should stop enforcing that one.

hmmm, you still sure about that?

Dear god people, next time someone breaks into or steals your shit cause they're the .01% that don't 'abide by the law'.....

Or we could all just wear tinfoil hats.

[Nzpure]

Or we could all just wear tinfoil hats.

+1
Oh hells yea!!!!!

[mossy1200]

All i can say to your comment is better displayed in the emote.....

Digital number recognition software is widely available. Wouldn't be that hard to get fitted.

And the issue of licenced rider and ownership could be solved by putting chips in our bodies so we can be digitally recognised also in order to protect our civil rights.Are you so against pulling over for 5mins every so often?If its that bad buy a trail bike.Seems to me alot here are fast to single out boy racers or bad habits of cage drivers or old people or people that drive to slow or make a mistake but its ok to ride anyway you please by your own set of rules.
Riding a bike doesnt make you any better than everyone else on the planet.Looking out for people around you by being safe could make you better than most.