Police target motorcyclists in another safety campaign

[Berries]

I just dont see why you cant accept that there is a reason why this is happening.

I do accept there is a reason this is happening. Rego, warrant and licence check is one thing and I don't have a problem with that considering the number of unlicenced and disqualified riders out there. I just don't accept that it is then the job of the Police to inform me that my laces are undone or they don't like the colour of my helmet, particularly when it is unlikely that the guy will have as much riding experience as I have. I also don't accept it when people who make their own risk assessment as to what they should wear on any given ride give advice to people who make their own risk assessment which may differ. ATGATT is relative. Unless you are wearing an airbag suit, airbag helmet, neckbrace, back protector etc etc etc you are not ATGATT. So stop preaching.

That's the royal 'you' by the way, not you specifically.

[tri boy]

If you could pay one acc road user fee would that make you happy?

So long as it was a reasonable charge, (and maybe have the ability to set a sliding scale, relative to previous traffic accidents/claims etc).
I would be a happy, (still scroogie) nanna.

[Tigadee]

Does that mean they perform a 30 point safety check on our bikes? Cool!

I can see now why they have the motto: "To serve and protect"

[mossy1200]

I do accept there is a reason this is happening. Rego, warrant and licence check is one thing and I don't have a problem with that considering the number of unlicenced and disqualified riders out there. I just don't accept that it is then the job of the Police to inform me that my laces are undone or they don't like the colour of my helmet, particularly when it is unlikely that the guy will have as much riding experience as I have. I also don't accept it when people who make their own risk assessment as to what they should wear on any given ride give advice to people who make their own risk assessment which may differ. ATGATT is relative. Unless you are wearing an airbag suit, airbag helmet, neckbrace, back protector etc etc etc you are not ATGATT. So stop preaching.

That's the royal 'you' by the way, not you specifically.

And since I live in the target area WELLINGTON where we have a dozen approx bike popo who have experience to burn and the colour of your helmet and your inability to tie your laces isnt the topic.Theres also a big diff between full leathers,boots,approved helmet and a back brace when I leave town than jandles and shorts and sometimes in Wellington a CYCLE helmet even NO helmet(no shit i have seen students without helmets)riding.Are you to cool to get advice or is it that you know all?Have you concidered that others may need advice?

[rastuscat]

What business is it of theirs that we wear the "correct gear"

Ok, helmets are compulsary

But if I decide to ride in shorts and jandals its my choice

We must resist these Saftey Nazis....

I guess your next post will be a whinge about increasing ACC levies.

[Berries]

Are you to cool to get advice or is it that you know all?

I'll take advice from anyone if they know their shit. If they don't then I'll have the thousand yard stare fairly quickly.

Have you concidered that others may need advice?

I am sure new riders do need a bit of advice, scooters and L plates might give a clue there. Not sure that it is a job for the Police though.

[rastuscat]

Went out for a ride today, saw two cops but neither targeted me.

..........didn't notice you in time to harrass you, sorry.............

We stopped a bloke this morning who was overtaking a line of moving vehicles on the left. He's been referred to my training programme.

Stopped another chap on a GSXRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR1000RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. He was super cool, in his leather jacket, full face helmet, gloves, trainers and shorts.

I personally wanted to give him a slapping, but not allowed these days. Just a word about making better choices, and he was on his way.

We get nailed on here for not caring about road safety, but every day I see riders who don't give a big rats arse about it either.

On the up side, Nick Smith got his cum uppance. Knob. Maybe his poor decision making took a while to catch up with him, but it was always going to. Trouble is, he's gone, and we still pay too much for vehicle reg.

[AD345]

Just on the gear thing

Wearing shorts, or a t-shirt does not make you more likely to have an accident nor does it increase the risk you present to the wider public

Wearing jandals, however, probably does

[rastuscat]

Just on the gear thing

Wearing shorts, or a t-shirt does not make you more likely to have an accident nor does it increase the risk you present to the wider public

Wearing jandals, however, probably does

Nope. But when that crash happens that is caused by someone else, the shorts will do you less good than your motorcycle ashtray.

Can anyone predict when some knob is going to fail to see them and knock them off? Ipso facto, it's always safer to wear motorcycle gear than shorts.

[Parlane]

Nope. But when that crash happens that is caused by someone else, the shorts will do you less good than your motorcycle ashtray.

Can anyone predict when some knob is going to fail to see them and knock them off? Ipso facto, it's always safer to wear motorcycle gear than shorts.

The ashtray is that thing on top of the tank aye?

[mossy1200]

I am sure new riders do need a bit of advice, scooters and L plates might give a clue there. Not sure that it is a job for the Police though.

New rider might be riding trump rocket but you would need to pull them up to find that out I Guess.

Your all loud online but your prob a yes sir when popo pull you up.

you fight your fight and ill ride it my way and give up 5mins if need be to do my share if required for the good of removing tards from the roads or trying to re-educate them.

[AD345]

Nope. But when that crash happens that is caused by someone else, the shorts will do you less good than your motorcycle ashtray.

Can anyone predict when some knob is going to fail to see them and knock them off? Ipso facto, it's always safer to wear motorcycle gear than shorts.

It's only safer in that it may minimise some types of ( incredibly fucking painful) injuries. It's not likely to reduce the risk of fatal injury beyond the short wearing person who also has a helmet on. It's a fine and moving line between personal risk profiles and societal appetite for others perceived level of risk

What I like and what you want me to like may be different. It has always been thus

For me the discussion is about your right to decide what I should like as a risk level (you as an individual, not you as a quite rational policeman)

[mossy1200]

It's only safer in that it may minimise some types of ( incredibly fucking painful) injuries. It's not likely to reduce the risk of fatal injury beyond the short wearing person who also has a helmet on. It's a fine and moving line between personal risk profiles and societal appetite for others perceived level of risk

What I like and what you want me to like may be different. It has always been thus

For me the discussion is about your right to decide what I should like as a risk level (you as an individual, not you as a quite rational policeman)

Thats not true go ask a medic about the risk of infection caused by severe road rash not to mention the costs involved in skin grafts.Ambo driver told me its easy to repair broken bones retained within riders gear but if you add infection to the mix amputation or death becomes a possible outcome.

[AD345]

Thats not true go ask a medic about the risk of infection caused by severe road rash not to mention the costs involved in skin grafts.Ambo driver told me its easy to repair broken bones retained within riders gear but if you add infection to the mix amputation or death becomes a possible outcome.

It fits within MY risk profile

[mossy1200]

It fits within MY risk profile

Thats the attitude that provokes change in the form of increased ACC or higher mandatory safety standards due to peoples acceptable risks exceeding accs budget for client repairs.Dont forget to ACC your a value in worth based on average cost to maintain.