Article: Give Way Rules Have Changed

**Scuba_Steve** · 25th March 2012, 09:56

Originally Posted by Maha

Indeed, only a fool will take to the roads tomorrow in the belief that all is well.

pfft all is well, they either know the new rules or buy me a new vehicle.

Needless to say I'm not on the bike at the mo & I could do with a new cage, this ones getting expensive to run.

**SMOKEU** · 25th March 2012, 10:16

I'm sticking to the push bike from now on around town.

**James Deuce** · 25th March 2012, 10:25

No one knew what the old ones were. How will a rule change make ANYTHING different from the "watch out for myself first" MO you should be using?

**Maha** · 25th March 2012, 10:27

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

pfft all is well, they either know the new rules or buy me a new vehicle.

Needless to say I'm not on the bike at the mo & I could do with a new cage, this ones getting expensive to run.

I just tested a change...me turning right giving way to a vehicle turning left and another vehicle turning right out of the road I was turning into, giving way to me...driver said ''well done bro''!...success

**FJRider** · 25th March 2012, 10:37

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

I'm sticking to the push bike from now on around town.

Wear a Hi vis' vest ... it gives us a better aiming point ....

**mossy1200** · 25th March 2012, 10:58

Simple.If your turning and going to hit someone in the drivers door your in the wrong.

Wait .That says if someone else gets it wrong your Forked.
Time to weld plate in drivers door incase it goes demo derby out there.

on the bike ill be stoping for anything that looks like it might hit me.

**Scuba_Steve** · 25th March 2012, 11:18

Originally Posted by Maha

I just tested a change...me turning right giving way to a vehicle turning left and another vehicle turning right out of the road I was turning into, giving way to me...driver said ''well done bro''!...success

good to see theres still hope for the driving population yet

**FJRider** · 25th March 2012, 11:22

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

good to see theres still hope for the driving population yet

Believe it when you see it. You'lll live longer.

**pritch** · 25th March 2012, 11:26

I've done the tests, interactive and otherwise, haven't got one answer wrong yet. What worries me is that if I get one wrong on the moped, or someone else does, it could hurt.

I guess the best plan for the next couple of weeks will be to leave early so as not to be under any time pressure.

**GingerMidget** · 25th March 2012, 11:54

In wellington it seems to be business as usual. People still aren't indicating but that won't change. I made it to Island bay, Kilbirnie and back home (cbdish) without being skittled on the scooter, so it wasn't that bad

**Motu** · 25th March 2012, 12:22

Originally Posted by GingerMidget

People still aren't indicating

The new rules came in 1977 - in 1978 mirrors and indicators became compulsory for motorcycles. After the new rules indicating became very important, and when turning left you needed to check the cars behind to see if they were turning or not...what a stupid rule. It doesn't really matter if the car turning left is indicating or not - you still can't turn right. Looking forward to much more sensible road rules...it should improve driving.

**pzkpfw** · 25th March 2012, 13:27

Originally Posted by Motu

... and when turning left you needed to check the cars behind to see if they were turning or not...what a stupid rule.

Did you really need to?

I've always thought the stupid bit was people giving way, not to the car they are facing, but to the car behind that.

If a left turner has to give way to the right turner facing them (rules just replaced) on a one lane (each direction) road, I saw it as "tough luck" that someone going straight, behind the left tuner, had to stop and wait too.

(At least it gave the right turner the chance to get out of the middle of the road where they are waiting. On a busy road with most traffic going straight, the occasional left turner might be the only thing giving that right turner the chance to go).

Of course, what happens is the impatient person going straight drives around the left turner (or the left turner stops half-way around the corner giving space for the straight traffic to pass): that's why the right turner "learns" not to go and the left turner "learns" to just go - so we end up with people doing what the current rules say to do.

So the whole issue became one of people (as usual) making it up as they go along, instead of following the rules.

(Probably half the problem is the overly simplistic examples they use, e.g. where there's no more than two cars ever at an intersection... they are still doing that.)

**merv** · 25th March 2012, 13:35

Well I just ventured over to Lower Hutt and no one seemed to be having any problem at all. The fact the the 1977 rules were just so plain dumb means the bulk of people, including international visitors, will find this so much more natural.

Heading back to the great city of Porirua proved the point. Coming around State Highway 58 you get to the Spinnaker Drive entry into Whitby. The right turners from Porriua have a lane to sit and wait in, whereas the left turners from the Hutt had no lane so used to have to stop and wait holding up the whole line of State Highway traffic behind them. Now that BS is all gone - beautiful. We are finally like the rest of the world again yippee.