Ports of Auckland

[pete376403]

who would ever want to try & run POA afterwards. The downside of interfering may very well outweigh the upside.
I am not be in total agreement with the POA attitude, they certainly seem intent on picking a fight, I suspect they will have some pretty high powered employment lawyers advising them. I would expect them to have their ducks in a row but stranger things have happened.

this is who would want to run POA (see- S.P.Mans post #17) - " The POAL chairman was previously a manager for Hutchison Port Holdings Group - a private company that is extending it's "assets" in the Asia/Pacific area. He was appointed by Rodney Hide when he was setting up the Greater Auckland City to privatise it's assets!
What's one way of getting a cheap port - run it into the ground and then buy it cheap to get it off Auckland Cities hands. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchison_Port_Holdings

[mashman]

Why the big (and it is big) difference?

The revenue v's expenditure is positive, ours isn't by several billion. They have lower inflation. They sit relatively close to billions of customers... and several other factors I guess... is it enough?

Finland +$5.67 billion
Revenue: $66.58 billion
Expenditure: $65.33 billion
Imports: $69.11 billion
Exports: $73.53 billion
Inflation: 1.2%

Sweden +$20.2 billion
Revenue: $293 billion
Expenditure: $289.6 billion
Imports: $187.4 billion
Exports: $204.2 billion
Inflation: 2.5%

New Zealand -$5.06
Revenue: $46.54 billion
Expenditure: $53.56 billion
Imports: $24.29 billion
Exports: $26.25 billion
Inflation: 4.3%

[Hinny]

Well I honestly don't know. The data is all over the place. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...PP)_per_capita

The list is topped by small nations with oil, small nations with no obvious resources, followed by bigger countries. Its difficult to determine any one factor which makes one nation more successful than another.

For example Finland ranks well above NZ. A cold remote country with reindeer, millions of trees, and snow. Sweden much the same and ranked even higher. Gods preserve us, how the heck can that be?

Above both of those icons stands the USA - the bastion of free-enterprise and strongly against organised labour. On a purely logical basis that is the example to follow. Not that I would - but it answers your question.

I was talking about Standard of Living Index.
GDP is only one component in a comprehensive equation covering all sorts of activity.

The Scandinavian countries always do very well.
The US never makes the top 10.
Canada is often near or at the top.

.....and you quote GDP figures.
A common mistake of Right Wing voters who believe the more money you have the better off you will be.

[Hinny]

My understanding is that the tax take is way down.

Bill English - defending the tax cuts - told Parliament that the tax take was up.
I was watching Parliament TV.

[Swoop]

Love the Tui billboard on the NW motorway at the moment.

[oneofsix]

Love the Tui billboard on the NW motorway at the moment.

how about a little hint for those of us not cursed to live on the NW motorway

[Swoop]

how about a little hint for those of us not cursed to live on the NW motorway

Dear Len,
You look good on the fence.
The Wharfies.

[avgas]

Dear Len,
You look good on the fence.
The Wharfies.

Yeah I saw that yesterday. Had a little giggle.

[Bassmatt]

Bill English - defending the tax cuts - told Parliament that the tax take was up.
I was watching Parliament TV.

He lied then. Its down (from memory) 4.1% over half of which Treasury says is due to the tax cuts

[Hinny]

He lied then. Its down (from memory) 4.1% over half of which Treasury says is due to the tax cuts

That's what the opposition said.
Are you saying giving tax cuts does not lead to an increase in tax revenue?
Who'd have thought?

[Winston001]

.....and you quote GDP figures.
A common mistake of Right Wing voters who believe the more money you have the better off you will be.

Agreed but what else can we objectively use?

Here's what Paul Krugman (Nobel leftish economist) says:


"I don’t see an easy way to develop a better measure than GDP – but not because GDP measures everything important. It doesn’t, and it’s crucial to understand that. But if you try to add in other things, the question is what weight you place on them – which is a matter of taste, not science. GDP is good for what it is, a measure of marketable output; the thing is to always keep in mind that health, inequality, peace, and so on are also important, but not measurable in GDP."

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/200...questions/#gdp

[Ocean1]

Agreed but what else can we objectively use?

Your original link didn’t reference GDP, it was corrected for purchasing parity. Believe it's reasonably widely accepted as international financial lingua franca. Having said that I noticed NZ scored 5 places different over three separate institutional analysis. Probably depends on what value they placed on marmite.

[avgas]

Your original link didn’t reference GDP, it was corrected for purchasing parity. Believe it's reasonably widely accepted as international financial lingua franca. Having said that I noticed NZ scored 5 places different over three separate institutional analysis. Probably depends on what value they placed on marmite.

I was thinking more common sense. But even that is starting to get in shortage here.
Perhaps the common sense part of the brain was replaced with Marmite.
Real chicken/egg scenario.

[ellipsis]

...whilst you all prevaricate so,they have brain-washed your wife and they're stealin' your children too...

[Grumph]

Ironic that transportation to Australia as a result of government action is no longer the punishment it once was.....

i wonder how many transplanted Kiwis voted in Queensland ?