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    I'm not a hyobag hater if fact I think they are a good cheap alternative to real bikes. My humble observations with them are they have:
    • a shit arse lock to lock steering which affects their low speed manoeuvrability, and
    • are not a well balance bike again affecting their low speed manoeuvrability


    So the question is; are they a good bike for beginners, or just a good cheap entry level look a like bike to get into motorcycling.

    Most folks can ride fast or look good on any bike when its going in a straight line. IMHO the real skill we gain and which allows us to be better riders is in our ability to manoeuvre at low speed; either through traffic or the roads we ride on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenMistake View Post
    Im DrunkenMistake and I own a Hyosung....
    (This is like AA)
    I brought my bike with 7,000km on the clock, and now its up to about 13,000 I owned it for about 3 weeks and in that time I had changed the end can to a really sexy MTC twin port race can, on the fourth week the R/R blew and the Stator was cooked, so about $700 later I have a R1 Mosfet r/r and an Ex250 stator and a new Motobatt battery in the bike, Nothing major, I knew it was going to happen eventually.

    A few weeks after that, I cleaned the front brake callipers as I had piss all pressure and thought they may have been sticking, no go turns out the Master cylinder had actually failed and was corroded to shit, Replaced that with an SV1000 Master cylinder (as I wanted a remote reservoir M/C because I think they just look nicer, Personal preference) got that all sorted and done, so that was another $110 or something along these lines, all good!

    Other than those things I have had a very pleasant experience with my Hyo, but I certainly wouldnt buy another one, maybe if they do a GT1000R I could be swayed,
    But as it stands, the Carbed 650r, is heavy, clumsy, turns like a Hippo at slow speed, but boy when you wanna tap that potential of V twin Torque, boy does she deliver.
    Some now may say "Then why did you buy it in the first place if you never really liked them?", I got cheeky and brought this bike for about a grand less than the asking price, My old VFR 400 NC30 was stolen and written off so the insurance pay out went towards a newer bike, I had decided to just go to 600cc and enjoy a long term bike that has everything I need, Failing to find one that was tidy and not a long term running project for a good price it was suggested I buy a Hyo 650, done alot of research and some looking into and what have you and overall the responses were actually positive, and to go from a 1991 400cc bike to a 2008 650cc bike is a pretty good upgrade in itself.

    If I could change something about the bike though it would be the wheelbase to start with, its a really long bike, probably ideal for taller people im sure but when you a 5'5 stump everything is out of reach.

    There ya go, my short and utterly useless review of my Hyosung.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    you forgot a couple things, like the recent constant blowing of the fuse for your lights for apparently no reason, and the oil spewing out of/into places is shouldnt, again with no apparent reason.

    The fuse thing was my fault, I actually had two bare wires when I spliced the headlight wires, I hadnt taped them up when I thought I had
    and the oil coming out of the crank case breather hose into the mist catcher is suppose to do just that, except one of those hoses was off, which makes me think back to when you helped me take of the AIS, and put the airbox back in for me..

    Both of those reasons were owner errors and not the actual bikes.

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    I had a hyobag, Loved it. Bought it with 2,800kms on the clock i payed roughly 2400 for i think. When i sold it it had about 15k on the clock and it was 13k kms of faultess riding. It was the only 250 that was a nice fit and would buy another cheap one for commuting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nzpure View Post
    I had a hyobag, Loved it. Bought it with 2,800kms on the clock i payed roughly 2400 for i think. When i sold it it had about 15k on the clock and it was 13k kms of faultess riding. It was the only 250 that was a nice fit and would buy another cheap one for commuting.

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    twas a gt250r btw lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustic101 View Post
    I'm not a hyobag hater if fact I think they are a good cheap alternative to real bikes. My humble observations with them are they have:
    • a shit arse lock to lock steering which affects their low speed manoeuvrability, and
    • are not a well balance bike again affecting their low speed manoeuvrability


    So the question is; are they a good bike for beginners, or just a good cheap entry level look a like bike to get into motorcycling.

    Most folks can ride fast or look good on any bike when its going in a straight line. IMHO the real skill we gain and which allows us to be better riders is in our ability to manoeuvre at low speed; either through traffic or the roads we ride on.
    I dont know if I what you are saying is really the case,
    I ride the 650 Everyday in all weather, in all traffic, I ride like a fuck wit most of the time ill be honest, but I have had no issues with getting in and about traffic, I have avoided all sorts of shit from people pulling out infront of me, changing lane without indicating etc all the way to people throwing their McDonald's happy meal box out the window,
    I wouldnt say im a good rider, thats up to someone else to judge me on but I get that bike around the twisties at a steady pace and the weight actually makes it smoother on the sweepers, Ill split through slow moving traffic on our shitty Dunedin roads and all sorts, the only thing I have EVER had a problem with is doing a Uturn on a standard size street, due to the horrible turning circle, it just means I have to pull over to the otherside rather than carry on going.

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    All the Hyosung riders I have ridden with have done nothing but talk about how good their bikes are when we stop for lunch/rest/whatever. It's almost like they have to justify their purchase by telling everyone how good it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nzpure View Post
    I had a hyobag, Loved it. Bought it with 2,800kms on the clock i payed roughly 2400 for i think. When i sold it it had about 15k on the clock and it was 13k kms of faultess riding. It was the only 250 that was a nice fit and would buy another cheap one for commuting.

    My 2 cents worth.
    Not too bad i guess, bought my first bike (the before mentioned '87 GPX250) at 32,000km's, 18months later it was at 83,000kms when it spontaneously shit the bottom end, over those k's it never missed a beat, but one gear change the wrong way and boom. (changed back from race pattern).
    Threw a 2nd hand bottom end in it for a box of bourbon and sold it or twice what i paid for it ($800), new owner did over 20,000k's on it and i have no idea what its doing now, he got his $1600 bucks worth for sure, that's good build Quality for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenMistake View Post
    I dont know if I what you are saying is really the case,
    I ride the 650 Everyday in all weather, in all traffic, I ride like a fuck wit most of the time ill be honest, but I have had no issues with getting in and about traffic, I have avoided all sorts of shit from people pulling out infront of me, changing lane without indicating etc all the way to people throwing their McDonald's happy meal box out the window,
    I wouldnt say im a good rider, thats up to someone else to judge me on but I get that bike around the twisties at a steady pace and the weight actually makes it smoother on the sweepers, Ill split through slow moving traffic on our shitty Dunedin roads and all sorts, the only thing I have EVER had a problem with is doing a Uturn on a standard size street, due to the horrible turning circle, it just means I have to pull over to the otherside rather than carry on going.
    I think you may have said in an earlier post they they handle like a brick at low speed, or words to that effect.

    Again to be honest my only experience with them is handling them at professionally run gymkhanas. Try turning them in a tight box or figure eight etc

    All power to you though and your skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustic101 View Post
    I think you may have said in an earlier post they they handle like a brick at low speed, or words to that effect.

    Again to be honest my only experience with them is handling them at professionally run gymkhanas. Try turning them in a tight box or figure eight etc

    All power to you though and your skills
    Haha,
    get your hands on one and got for a lengthy ride, they are a really nice bike once your used to it, just dont ride a scorpio for two hours to sit your license then get back on the Hyo... you will damn near drop the thing because of the weight alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenMistake View Post
    Haha,
    get your hands on one and got for a lengthy ride, they are a really nice bike once your used to it, just dont ride a scorpio for two hours to sit your license then get back on the Hyo... you will damn near drop the thing because of the weight alone
    I think I'd be disappointed after riding the GSX I like the torque too much

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    Quote Originally Posted by sil3nt View Post
    All the Hyosung riders I have ridden with have done nothing but talk about how good their bikes are when we stop for lunch/rest/whatever. It's almost like they have to justify their purchase by telling everyone how good it is.
    ?? Everyone goes on about how good there bikes are don't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenMistake View Post
    I dont know if I what you are saying is really the case,
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    yes it is. last time I rode your bike, I hardly had enough room to do a u-turn at a T intersection, using the intersecting road to make a wide turning circle. The weight it awkward and cumbersome at low speed.
    You dont notice it because you ride it every day and its 'normal' to you. the same way i dont realise the yammy is a bit of a pain through town, because its 'normal' to me.
    they are a cunt at LOW speeds. once moving they are ok, a little heavy still, but quite stable feeling
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenMistake View Post
    The fuse thing was my fault,.
    Dont try backing out now buddy! YOU bought the Lowslung, YOU live with it!!!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by rustic101 View Post
    I think you may have said in an earlier post they they handle like a brick at low speed, or words to that effect.

    yes he did

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    hahaha, they are shit and everybody knows it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenMistake View Post
    Haha,
    get your hands on one and got for a lengthy ride, they are a really nice bike once your used to it, just dont ride a scorpio for two hours to sit your license then get back on the Hyo... you will damn near drop the thing because of the weight alone
    Remember bro, the 250 and 650 are not the same bike. The chassis, suspension and motor share nothing in common, the 650 has a far better chassis (and even then...) and obviously the motor is a nice unit.
    The 250 is a "sporty" looking commuter and nothing less, just like the new EX250 Ninja, well, all the 250cc Nija things except the GPX with the twin front brake, IMHO that's the only twin Kawasaki 4T that could be considered a 4T 250 sport bike.

    The Hyo 250 is so far behind in terms of refinement and performance it's a joke.
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