Whinging Somalian refugees insult our charity. GO HOME THEN!

[Zedder]

You been watching too much US TV. In NZ they are mainly container ships etc and it isn't the SAS type of action that is required, more better boarder control via customs etc. Once you get the existing boarder control up to a level where they can inspect more than 50% of the containers and ships carrying them then you might create a drug boat issue and then to get a boat to NZ it would still be of a size a petrol boat and the navy could handle.

Don't be so patronising OO6, a lot of drug trafficking to NZ is carried out by small boats according to Customs and MFAT info.

More interceptor vessels and personnel would greatly help to reduce the problem.

[oneofsix]

Don't be so patronising OO6, a lot of drug trafficking to NZ is carried out by small boats according to Customs and MFAT info.

More interceptor vessels and personnel would greatly help to reduce the problem.

So you agree it is navy and not SAS then, thanks.

[Paul in NZ]

Don't be so patronising OO6, a lot of drug trafficking to NZ is carried out by small boats according to Customs and MFAT info.

More interceptor vessels and personnel would greatly help to reduce the problem.

They could give fisheries a hand too.... Bastard poachers....

[MSTRS:Me]

But, boss, it's my customary right as Tangata Whenua to pillage the kai moana.
And undersize? Nup. Best ones to take are the young one. Taste better and can't breed yet. Any that are cunning enough to evade us will grow up and breed, cos only the smart ones should breed. You got kids yet, boss?

[Zedder]

So you agree it is navy and not SAS then, thanks.

If I meant Navy, I would have said it.

My original suggestion was about a combined forces Coastguard.

It could mean deploying multiple smaller units of defence personnel and vessels, aircraft etc (whoever and whatever they may be) but it's about doing it better and making NZ waters safer. Specialist units do that very well. Australia for instance, has a Ready Reaction Force solely based in the Northern Territory.

[avgas]

Your kinda missing the point of a defense force.
Guns are cool

and turn these

into these

and hopefully into these


It was never about war against our enemies, it was the war against complacency.
Instead we are promoting this:




If you take away all the toys - people will simply give up on the forces and pursue a career on Xbox instead.

[mashman]

If you take away all the toys - people will simply give up on the forces and pursue a career on Xbox instead.

only if you give them offer better to do... and the NZ HarmMe isn't going to be to everyone's taste.

[Zedder]

It would still be a Defence Force but it would be defending against drug smugglers, fisheries poachers, whinging refugees etc.

There would be guns too, lots of guns.

[Tigadee]

Wasn't there a time when people had to serve in the armed forces just to be allowed citizenship or residency?

So maybe refugees should be made to serve the community as a price of being accepted into this country...

[avgas]

It would still be a Defence Force but it would be defending against drug smugglers, fisheries poachers, whinging refugees etc.
There would be guns too, lots of guns.

What about jets and tanks?
Not all of us wanted to be waterboys

[puddytat]

Anti shipping rockets,patriot missile systems, & a few drones should sort it....Oh and we'd need only one nuke.

[Zedder]

What about jets and tanks?
Not all of us wanted to be waterboys

What's the budget?

[avgas]

What's the budget?

2 sinking (sorry "water boarding") ANZAC frigates worth would do me - do we have warrenty on those that we can claim back?

[Zedder]

2 sinking (sorry "water boarding") ANZAC frigates worth would do me - do we have warrenty on those that we can claim back?

Yeah, sad story those frigates. Maybe some sort of lease back to the Aussies for submarine training and put a claim in as well.

[avgas]

Yeah, sad story those frigates. Maybe some sort of lease back to the Aussies for submarine training and put a claim in as well.

Especially considering we still have skyhawks and all they need is gas.
What happened to our old Scorpions? Where are they now? anyone know?