Whinging Somalian refugees insult our charity. GO HOME THEN!

[MSTRS:Me]

For those who are not prepared to learn from histories mistakes it is also fair to point out that we were very much under threat of invasion between 1941 to 43. Its lucky a few naval and air battles changed that horrible possibility

An expansionist military power using the opportunity of a world occupied by war in Europe saw a chance. Are we really likely to have such a situation again?
Doubtful.
Takeover by stealth is much more likely. You can't fight refugees...

[avgas]

Because unless we've suddenly struck a huge oil/gas/gold/diamond field, we're not really all that important (even strategically) and so not worth invading. We don't control shipping routes, we don't produce high-technology products, refine or produce large amounts of oil/gas, etc.

And when the rest is gone elsewhere?
Here is hoping the Chinese have bought us out by then........otherwise we are ......whats the iraqi word for 'fucked'?

[Paul in NZ]

Trim the welfare budget, which is still out of control

Instil a culture of working for a living rtaher than voting for a living. Some way to go there.

I can think of several ways of doing this.

Downers (for just 1 example) import Phillipino fibre jointers by the boatload for UFB / RBI initiatives. There are not enough skilled jointers in NZ (they say). Translation, they can pay the other guys less.

Remember the Telcos are getting a govt subsidy to roll this out. A condition should have been to provide the work to locals. Many existing jointers could have been upskilled easily and made room for youngsters to get into the game and learn some genuinely useful skills.

[Swoop]

Especially considering we still have skyhawks and all they need is gas.
What happened to our old Scorpions? Where are they now? anyone know?

New Zealand Scorpions:

New Zealand purchased 26 Scorpions as reconnaissance vehicles and tank training expedient and these entered service in August 1982. These have since been withdrawn from service and sold.



Sold = http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...bjectid=151748

[avgas]

New Zealand Scorpions:

New Zealand purchased 26 Scorpions as reconnaissance vehicles and tank training expedient and these entered service in August 1982. These have since been withdrawn from service and sold.



Sold = http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...bjectid=151748

Cheers for that - did always wonder.

Why didn't we get LAV-AD/AT.......they are so much cooler looking
(not to mention more practical for NZ)

Who you gonna scare with a 25mm?

[oneofsix]

Cheers for that - did always wonder.

Why didn't we get LAV-AD/AT.......they are so much cooler looking
(not to mention more practical for NZ)

Who you gonna scare with a 25mm?

The Govt. didn't even want the 25mm. If it wasn't going to cost more to redesign the LAV not to have the 25mm it wouldn't be there.

[Tigadee]

whats the iraqi word for 'fucked'?

'Bush'...

[scracha]

Their spelling might at least be better than it was in my post. But nonetheless we are certainly paying the price for nine long years of that vile bitch.

Could have been worse....we had 11 years of that bitch Margaret Thatcher raping our country

heh, as others have said that'd be a might tad expensive and short sighted given planes can be shot down without the pilot even seeing the "enemy"... however they do put on nice displays. Defence is an expensive business and we need to be smarter with our choice of weaponry.

http://www.interestingprojects.com/c...emanbook.shtml

Oh wait....we bowed to foreign interests and "shot him down"

Downers (for just 1 example) import Phillipino fibre jointers by the boatload for UFB / RBI initiatives. There are not enough skilled jointers in NZ (they say). Translation, they can pay the other guys less.

Remember the Telcos are getting a govt subsidy to roll this out. A condition should have been to provide the work to locals. Many existing jointers could have been upskilled easily and made room for youngsters to get into the game and learn some genuinely useful skills.

Yeah, the whole RBI is fucking criminal. Wonder who has shares in the big Telcos. Agree on the jointers too. Why the hell aren't Kiwis doing this? Bonkers.

My other bugbear is call-centres. I can kinda understand using folks in Maylasia due to the wages.....what I can't understand is when I ring an 0800 support number and end up speaking to an Aussie. I mean...both countries speak native(ish) English but the one with > 30% higher wages gets the work. Says a lot about NCEA if you ask me.

[gatch]

I like how this thread has gone from giving somalis a burst, to what we should do with our poos air force.

We could get some sweet second hand A10's for fuck all. They are a bit like farmers. Slow, can take a massive hiding and can still carry about a 7ton payload.

[Tigadee]

We could get some sweet second hand A10's for fuck all. They are a bit like farmers. Slow, can take a massive hiding and can still carry about a 7ton payload.

Farmers?

Uhhh, but they fire depleted uranium slugs, which won't be permitted by the nuclear-free types... They'll be up in arms although that's an oxymoron.

[SMOKEU]

Cheers for that - did always wonder.

Why didn't we get LAV-AD/AT.......they are so much cooler looking
(not to mention more practical for NZ)

Who you gonna scare with a 25mm?

They have those on BF3. Awesome for shooting down choppers.

[Robert Taylor]

Could have been worse....we had 11 years of that bitch Margaret Thatcher raping our country



http://www.interestingprojects.com/c...emanbook.shtml

Oh wait....we bowed to foreign interests and "shot him down"



Yeah, the whole RBI is fucking criminal. Wonder who has shares in the big Telcos. Agree on the jointers too. Why the hell aren't Kiwis doing this? Bonkers.

My other bugbear is call-centres. I can kinda understand using folks in Maylasia due to the wages.....what I can't understand is when I ring an 0800 support number and end up speaking to an Aussie. I mean...both countries speak native(ish) English but the one with > 30% higher wages gets the work. Says a lot about NCEA if you ask me.

So you arent purchasing a DVD then of ''The Iron Lady''? I have watched that movie twice and it bought a tear or two to my eye of fond memories of that awesome woman. The biggest problem is actually what followed 97 on, inclusive of that totally inept Scotchman who was chancellor of the excheqour( sold the gold ) and then Prime money waster. Not before time was he got rid of and I dont envy David Camerons task. Its notable that like Callaghans Government before them both Labour Governments have essentially bankrupted Britain.
I guess they've got their problems also with refugess from Somalia with their hands out, and it was a Labour Government that massively accelerated immigration to an already overcrowded country.

[ellipsis]

types... They'll be up in arms although that's an oxymoron.

...no it's not..

[Berries]

I have watched that movie twice and it bought a tear or two to my eye of fond memories of that awesome woman.

I may shed a tear when she snuffs it later this year, but it certainly won't be through sadness.

[mashman]

Could have been worse....we had 11 years of that bitch Margaret Thatcher raping our country

http://www.interestingprojects.com/c...emanbook.shtml

Oh wait....we bowed to foreign interests and "shot him down"

heh, she was the start of the end for the UK. She may well have been a strong leader and a great statesman, but she opened the door to corporatism in the UK and signed off on its death, her and her pal Ronny. A tad dramatic maybe, but history doesn't show anything different.

Now I don't read as a rule, but that looks like it'd be something slightly different to your run of the mill book. I'll keep an eye open for it and if I ever see it I'll get it.