Islam and why you should panic

[mashman]

Fighting terrorism with terrorism? or just a bunch of intolerant panic merchants? I'm going for the latter

[scumdog]

Fighting terrorism with terrorism? or just a bunch of intolerant panic merchants? I'm going for the latter

EU and UN are run by and for retarded twats that would make cretins look like Einsteins....

[Tigadee]

There will always be a backlash when initiatives are rushed - so basically the pendulum is close to an apex and will start swinging back the other way. Globalisation was embraced and peddled to the masses a bit too enthusiastically, and borders got thrown wide open with huge influx of foreign cultures [some that weren't even considered carefully for their ability to add to the quality of the host society], followed by clash of cultures and values, friction between immigrants and locals, and eventually locals will push back.

Funny that, history repeating itself... Pre-WWII, Europe was in deep recession, minorities were blamed for economic/social/cultural woes, and one A. Hitler rose to power on the back of frustration and resentment against everything, from the Government/politicians to banks to other nations [the Jews and Communists were just scapegoats].

Trouble now is whether the minorities are really minorities [or are the locals the minority now?], otherwise it will be a bit difficult to keep the peace...

[scumdog]

Trouble now is whether the minorities are really minorities [or are the locals the minority now?], otherwise it will be a bit difficult to keep the peace...

A visit to Birmingstan U.K will set you right...

[mashman]

Funny that, history repeating itself... Pre-WWII, Europe was in deep recession, minorities were blamed for economic/social/cultural woes, and one A. Hitler rose to power on the back of frustration and resentment against everything, from the Government/politicians to banks to other nations [the Jews and Communists were just scapegoats].

Trouble now is whether the minorities are really minorities [or are the locals the minority now?], otherwise it will be a bit difficult to keep the peace...

My most favouritist quote ever... Albert Einstein and his definition of Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Tis a shame that we look at each other in that way, you are X in a population of Y, therefore you are a minority as a part of Z and should know your place, else Y will remind you

[Tigadee]

A visit to Birmingstan U.K will set you right...

No need, just go to downtown AKL, South AKL or Howick...

What's that joke? "My wife and I got a dog - it's black and brown with a little bit of white, so we decided to call it Auckland..."

[mashman]

EU and UN are run by and for retarded twats that would make cretins look like Einsteins....

but they're the best we've got

[Tigadee]

Tis a shame that we look at each other in that way, you are X in a population of Y, therefore you are a minority as a part of Z and should know your place, else Y will remind you

It's really our own fault, 'cos when times were good [i.e. money was flowing], we focused on chasing the money and material wealth - we ignored with eyes open all these issues. Suddenly when times are tough, we're trying to survive and we realise what's happened and start reacting. It was a time of milk and honey just when Labour was in power [they didn't create it, even though they'd like to believe it], we were too busy chasing the dollar while the liberals started allowing refugees and all kinds of immigrants in who wouldn't contribute to NZ society.

I'm all for enriching the fabric of the New Zealand cultural landscape [fresh skilled workforce and wider variety of international cuisines available is always a good thing, for instance] but unwise, over-generous and poorly thought-out policies have ended up introducing more negatives than positives. And it all happened in front of us and we never paid attention...

[mashman]

It's really our own fault, 'cos when times were good [i.e. money was flowing], we focused on chasing the money and material wealth - we ignored with eyes open all these issues. Suddenly when times are tough, we're trying to survive and we realise what's happened and start reacting. It was a time of milk and honey just when Labour was in power [they didn't create it, even though they'd like to believe it], we were too busy chasing the dollar while the liberals started allowing refugees and all kinds of immigrants in who wouldn't contribute to NZ society.

I'm all for enriching the fabric of the New Zealand cultural landscape [fresh skilled workforce and wider variety of international cuisines available is always a good thing, for instance] but unwise, over-generous and poorly thought-out policies have ended up introducing more negatives than positives. And it all happened in front of us and we never paid attention...

I'm wholly with you there, a big +1... but, as I keep getting told, that's the way things are and there's no other way to do things. Oddly enough that's either utter bullshit, complete lies, sheer ignorance and politics, or a combination of all. Praps someone will do something about it some day, praps they won't. It took me 38 years to finally realise it and as you say, that was with, what I thought, my eyes wide open. I guess the lucky thing is that these "crashes" happen once, maybe twice/thrice in a generation, the first time being ignored by youth, the second time being an eyebrow raiser and if there's a third time, we've likely lost our marbles or have resigned ourselves to accepting that this is the only way it can be, because it always has been. A sort of roll over and play dead. The fuckers running the show have time on their side, things will be forgotten, consigned to the history books with the nod of lessons learned (see Einstein's theory of insanity).

As was mentioned in the Somali thread there are those that arrive here and do fuck all and there are those who arrive here and make a go of it. The funny thing is is that if you gave them a simple job and paid them a relatively decent amount of money for it, they would do that job quite happily imho. Same as anything these days... it's all about the money, still ... and always will?

[scumdog]

Same as anything these days... it's all about the money, still ... and always will?

It's also about laziness and Govt hand-outs too...

[mashman]

It's also about laziness and Govt hand-outs too...

the money then

[scumdog]

the money then

But not lots of it.

And no ambition.

And a 'Groundhog Day' lifestyle...

[mashman]

But not lots of it.

And no ambition.

And a 'Groundhog Day' lifestyle...

heh... meh, meh, meh... someone's gotta do it and it's better than them joining the local right wing lynch mob and keeping you fae yer donuts

[SPman]

It's really our own fault, 'cos when times were good [i.e. money was flowing], we focused on chasing the money and material wealth - we ignored with eyes open all these issues.

Not all of us wandered blinkeredly along life's highway........although now, I don't really give a shit what happens worldwide any more. Bring it all on I reckon - I'm content to sit in the bush

[ducatilover]

I haven't panicked, am I okay Mashy?