Whinging Somalian refugees insult our charity. GO HOME THEN!

[pete376403]

Takeover by stealth is much more likely. You can't fight refugees...

Isn't this where this thread started?

[scracha]

So you arent purchasing a DVD then of ''The Iron Lady''? I have watched that movie twice and it bought a tear or two to my eye of fond memories of that awesome woman. The biggest problem is actually what followed 97 on, inclusive of that totally inept Scotchman who was chancellor of the excheqour( sold the gold ) and then Prime money waster. Not before time was he got rid of and I dont envy David Camerons task. Its notable that like Callaghans Government before them both Labour Governments have essentially bankrupted Britain.
I guess they've got their problems also with refugess from Somalia with their hands out, and it was a Labour Government that massively accelerated immigration to an already overcrowded country.

Thatcher: Sold of our (Scotland's) oil throughout the 80's, sold all our state houses, privatised (sold) most UK assets (FFS she charged the poor sods in England and Wales for their own water) and still couldn't balance the books. Probably due largely to the UK having the highest unemployment in Western Europe during her reign; even with the Tories dodgy YTS (Youth Training Scheme) to keep the figures artificially low. She wasn't savvy enough strip the best assets (human and capital) from Hong Kong. Pretty much destroyed UK manufacturing. Of course a service economy is far better than actually making tangible things. Far better we import cars, ships, locomotives and coal. Stopped free school milk. Brought in student loans for university students. Illegally taxed Scotland at a different rate (Poll Tax). Trained the Khymer Rouge. Illegally bombed Libya. Supported the pro apartheid South African government.

As for bankrupting Britain......UK national debt as a % of GDP was largely flat at around 45% since the mid 70's. Neither Harold Wilson nor Callaghan raised it? Can hardly blame them for the 70's energy crisis either.

Blaming Gordon Brown as Chancellor? By that you must be referencing the 10 years of continued economic growth, record employment levels and stable inflation and interest rates. So long as inflation targets were met, the BoE was largely left to its own devices when Labour came into power....pretty much in-line with Tory and Lib Dem policy. One could equally argue that Thatcher's "Right To Buy" policy led to the housing and subsequent (fake) equity boom that's got the UK in a right bloody mess.

Just because some folks in had the good fortune to be in the right place at the right time or got lucky on "the property ladder" doesn't make Thatcher a hero.

[SS90]

Thatcher: Sold of our (Scotland's) oil throughout the 80's, sold all our state houses, privatised (sold) most UK assets (FFS she charged the poor sods in England and Wales for their own water) and still couldn't balance the books. Probably due largely to the UK having the highest unemployment in Western Europe during her reign; even with the Tories dodgy YTS (Youth Training Scheme) to keep the figures artificially low. She wasn't savvy enough strip the best assets (human and capital) from Hong Kong. Pretty much destroyed UK manufacturing. Of course a service economy is far better than actually making tangible things. Far better we import cars, ships, locomotives and coal. Stopped free school milk. Brought in student loans for university students. Illegally taxed Scotland at a different rate (Poll Tax). Trained the Khymer Rouge. Illegally bombed Libya. Supported the pro apartheid South African government.

As for bankrupting Britain......UK national debt as a % of GDP was largely flat at around 45% since the mid 70's. Neither Harold Wilson nor Callaghan raised it? Can hardly blame them for the 70's energy crisis either.

Blaming Gordon Brown as Chancellor? By that you must be referencing the 10 years of continued economic growth, record employment levels and stable inflation and interest rates. So long as inflation targets were met, the BoE was largely left to its own devices when Labour came into power....pretty much in-line with Tory and Lib Dem policy. One could equally argue that Thatcher's "Right To Buy" policy led to the housing and subsequent (fake) equity boom that's got the UK in a right bloody mess.

Just because some folks in had the good fortune to be in the right place at the right time or got lucky on "the property ladder" doesn't make Thatcher a hero.

Ah yes, "Thatcher the Milk snatcher", let us not forget how she actually had the Welsh and Yorkshire mines CEMENTED closed in order to destroy the unions, at the same time importing coal, as the transition to gas for electricity generation was not suitable for industrial factory use.

Revenge for the coal mine unions shutting down parliament in the mid 70's? Seems likely doesn't it.

Now, there is a multi million pound scheme to remove all off the cement from the coal mines, so they can again access it, as the logic is why send your money off shore?

If anyone doesn't think the UK is in the shit needs their head read.

[Tigadee]

even with the dodgy TS (Training Scheme) to keep the figures artificially low. Pretty much destroyed local manufacturing. Of course a service economy is far better than actually making tangible things. Far better we import cars, ships, locomotives and coal. Stopped free school milk. Brought in student loans for university students. Illegally taxed at a different rate (Poll Tax).

As for bankrupting ......national debt as a % of GDP was largely flat at around 45% since the mid 70's.

So long as inflation targets were met, the Treasury was largely left to its own devices when Labour came into power....pretty much in-line with policy. One could equally argue that "Right To Buy" policy led to the housing and subsequent (fake) equity boom that's got the ** in a right bloody mess.

That's right!

Uhhhhh, we are talking about New Zealand, right?

[300weatherby]

We are going to lose our country without a shot being fired by anybody.Our own stupid political system is going to be used against us to take it way. The Chinese population in Auckland outnumbers the Pacific Island and Maori populations combined, we are seeing Indian and Chinese Mayors and polititions now, what is going to happen when either/iether (or both at once)of those "ethnic groups" figure out that with a little organisation, they can use MMP to seize power in NZ, the same as the Green and Maori parties would like to do now.

When they have the MMP based power to bend the Govt of the day, they will look to open the immigration laws in favour of their own, improving the number base even more, gaining evermore influence politically, thereby able to have greater and greater policy say untill the day arrives when they can do a deal with a minor party and take control.

When that happens NZ as we know it is lost.China will then be able to turn NZ into it's offshore farm just as it is doing in other 3rd word countries around the globe.No more gravy train for fat greedy Moari want this, deserve that self agenda based types then....

Better start learning Chinese now, cause it could start happening in our lifetime, historically, the Chinese play the long game, one inch at a time over decades and generations.

[Madness]

I don't like Chinese. I much prefer a good Malaysian or Indian.

[300weatherby]

I don't like Chinese. I much prefer a good Malaysian or Indian.

Inch at a time, or all at once?

[Madness]

Inch at a time, or all at once?

I usually eat the whole thing and if I'm hungry I'll have a starter as well. Mmmmm, Samosas.

[98tls]

We are going to lose our country without a shot being fired by anybody.Our own stupid political system is going to be used against us to take it way. The Chinese population in Auckland outnumbers the Pacific Island and Maori populations combined, we are seeing Indian and Chinese Mayors and polititions now, what is going to happen when either/iether (or both at once)of those "ethnic groups" figure out that with a little organisation, they can use MMP to seize power in NZ, the same as the Green and Maori parties would like to do now.

This country was lost way before MMP though i will conceed that was pretty much the final nail in the coffin,if not then working for pacific island familys/dont discipline your children was.Skinnys running around with knives is pretty much monkey see monkey do all things considered,what i find amusing is the outrage over skinnys but the acceptance of other flotsam washed up on our shores that have being doing the same for years.

[jasonu]

We are going to lose our country without a shot being fired by anybody.Our own stupid political system is going to be used against us to take it way. The Chinese population in Auckland outnumbers the Pacific Island and Maori populations combined, we are seeing Indian and Chinese Mayors and polititions now, what is going to happen when either/iether (or both at once)of those "ethnic groups" figure out that with a little organisation, they can use MMP to seize power in NZ, the same as the Green and Maori parties would like to do now.

When they have the MMP based power to bend the Govt of the day, they will look to open the immigration laws in favour of their own, improving the number base even more, gaining evermore influence politically, thereby able to have greater and greater policy say untill the day arrives when they can do a deal with a minor party and take control.

When that happens NZ as we know it is lost.China will then be able to turn NZ into it's offshore farm just as it is doing in other 3rd word countries around the globe.No more gravy train for fat greedy Moari want this, deserve that self agenda based types then....

Better start learning Chinese now, cause it could start happening in our lifetime, historically, the Chinese play the long game, one inch at a time over decades and generations.

Really scarey mate. I saw all this coming in the late 90's when we had the influx of chinese from Hong Kong arrive. They bought up all east Auckland real estate as fast as they could (pushing the medium house price in Auckland up thousands per month and out of the reach of a lot of young NZers), set up their own communities with shops, restaurants, etc, filled the schools with their kids who didn't speak much if any english which took up most of the teachers attention and so disadvantaged the NZ kids and didn't even try to integrate with the locals.
10+ years later they have more than a foot hold as you say so maybe now too late to do anything about it but try to vote out MMP.

[avgas]

Meh SSDD as far as I am concerned.
3rd Generation Chinese/Kiwi is as arrogant as 3rd Generation Pom/Kiwi.
If the chinese are going to take us over, we should really be watching Hong Kong's Performance to see how we might look in 20 years..........may not be a bad thing.
Our old path was copying the UK/Aus/USA...............who's track record is no better than China's when you think about it.

[kevfromcoro]

I don't like Chinese. I much prefer a good Malaysian or Indian.

Yeah...
But the chinese are good roots..
Well the girls are..
Not to sure about the blokes

[jasonu]

Yeah...
But the chinese are good roots..
Well the girls are..
Not to sure about the blokes

Watch out for the girlyboys...

[The Everlasting]

Yeah if they don't like it,they can certainly fuck off back to somalia.

Those refugees should be made to get jobs in christchurch(there is heaps of work),and if they refuse,deport the bastards.

[SS90]

Yeah if they don't like it,they can certainly fuck off back to somalia.

Those refugees should be made to get jobs in christchurch(there is heaps of work),and if they refuse,deport the bastards.

This does bring up a valid point, with all the work available in Christchurch, why are there any of these "immigrants" receiving benefits for? Oh yea, that's right...... We are not allowed to actually FORCE them to work, are we......