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    Maybe the $$$ we are paying to ACC is filtering back through education etc to lower the road toll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Not once has anyone (in the propaganda machine) ever thanked the only thing saving lives out there.
    Just once it'd be nice to see some truth from the propaganda machine. But it ain't gonna happen is it...
    Thanking the vehicle drivers would be a start. A "pat on the back" for this result.
    Perhaps even saying "let's keep it up - get some advanced driving tuition" sort of approach. Yunno... sort of proactive like, instead of the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff.
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    How many bike crashes were there? I didn't see one reported over the weekend and yet there were shit loads of bikes out and about.
    Were there less crashes or just less fatals? From what I saw earlier in the weekend it was a case of less injury crashes so I guess less crashing was done by all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    How many bike crashes were there? I didn't see one reported over the weekend and yet there were shit loads of bikes out and about.
    Were there less crashes or just less fatals? From what I saw earlier in the weekend it was a case of less injury crashes so I guess less crashing was done by all?
    I could only find reference to 450 road crashes, no actual breakdown of that to car and bikes.

    Bikes were certainly out in force though from what I saw. A great weekend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Thanking the vehicle drivers would be a start. A "pat on the back" for this result.
    Perhaps even saying "let's keep it up - get some advanced driving tuition" sort of approach. Yunno... sort of proactive like, instead of the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff.
    Not a bad idea "positive reinforcement", could very well work. Tho like with the truth, we ain't about to see it cause that's not the way to make moneys
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    The cops can fuck off, it has nothing to do with them.

    It has everything to do with the price of petrol and the intersection rule change at the end of March. People have to pay attention at intersections because no one knows how someone is going to behave. Given that intersections are the most dangerous part of road use, I'd say that was the major contributor to keeping the road toll non-existent.

    That being said, more people have died this year to date than last year, even with the 10 days of no deaths.

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    The Acting Road manager had better watch his back. He sounds like a sensible follow and is not crediting a single factor in the zero deaths, not the way to get promoted . He has even pointed out that many are taking extended breaks with the start of the school holidays as a possible factor in the lack of crashes. Thinking about it most of the crashes do happen in the later part of the break so perhaps he has a point. Less tired, frustrated drivers trying to just get home, on this point the clamp down on slow drivers would have also helped.

    Congestion had been heavy around Auckland and along the Kapiti Coast on Friday, but had not been quite as bad yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    How can 0 be counted as a toll?
    Its not a number...
    There was no road toll this easter weekend...so it cant be the lowest.
    Surely the lowest must sit at 1?
    Anything lower than that is ....nothing.
    If it CAN be named ... it is something. You can name anything .... Even nothing. So nothing must therefore be something.

    Zero IS a number. My clock tells me it is too ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    The Acting Road manager had better watch his back. He sounds like a sensible follow and is not crediting a single factor in the zero deaths, not the way to get promoted . He has even pointed out that many are taking extended breaks with the start of the school holidays as a possible factor in the lack of crashes. Thinking about it most of the crashes do happen in the later part of the break so perhaps he has a point. Less tired, frustrated drivers trying to just get home, on this point the clamp down on slow drivers would have also helped.
    But isn't it about multiple factors? Better driving habits, good road/weather conditions, less reckless speeding, less drink-driving etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    But isn't it about multiple factors? Better driving habits, good road/weather conditions, less reckless speeding, less drink-driving etc.
    and most are discussed above and it is something Mr Morgan is being honest about, even some of the more obtuse ones.

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    The Easter 'toll' is nothing to be proud of...it is simply the vagaries of dumb luck.
    Here's the reality
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    If it CAN be named ... it is something. You can name anything .... Even nothing. So nothing must therefore be something.

    Zero IS a number. My clock tells me it is too ...
    Using that logic, it could be feasable to list nothing on TM for $1 reserve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Using that logic, it could be feasable to list nothing on TM for $1 reserve?
    na doesn't work, I try'd that after seeing carbon credits for sale (effectively the same thing). Got pulled after 3 days, seems you gotta offer a physical product with your sale, coulda done up a certificate but that woulda defeated the purpose of my nothing sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    The Easter 'toll' is nothing to be proud of...it is simply the vagaries of dumb luck.
    Here's the reality
    ...my feelings also...I saw a lot of fuckwits out there, just getting away with it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    The Easter 'toll' is nothing to be proud of...it is simply the vagaries of dumb luck.
    Here's the reality
    Funny way of organsing the 'casualty age' bit - grouping ranging from 4 years to 19 year lots.

    At a quick glance you could be forgiven for thinking that older people are more likely to be a casualty.
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