Mini-motard for bucket racing?

[mossy1200]

............... no ............

If the motor is the same as a road bike made by the same people? Im picking your saying no due to enduro as its not what idd call and motorcross bike but wouldnt enduro rule out xl125 engines etc also.

[Yow Ling]

If the motor is the same as a road bike made by the same people? Im picking your saying no due to enduro as its not what idd call and motorcross bike but wouldnt enduro rule out xl125 engines etc also.

you had a bucket, you cut it up to make a trailer. I'm not sure if you can be trusted with a bucket

[koba]

Bump im having trouble getting advice

Not sure, it's likely to be a crap bike anyway, save the hassle and buy something known to be decent.
It may cost a bit more initially but will be more worth-while in the long run.

[mossy1200]

you had a bucket, you cut it up to make a trailer. I'm not sure if you can be trusted with a bucket

Sorry. It just happened.

[mossy1200]

Not sure, it's likely to be a crap bike anyway, save the hassle and buy something known to be decent.
It may cost a bit more initially but will be more worth-while in the long run.

It just looked like fun. The problem is if I start spending I dont stop. Idd rather just be having fun at a low cost.

[koba]

It just looked like fun. The problem is if I start spending I dont stop. Idd rather just be having fun at a low cost.

If you are going to start a spiral of frivolous spending, starting with a pile of poop like that means you would get a small fortune into it and still have a bike worse than the benchmark FXR.

Also don't forget re-sale value and sale-ability, unless the popularity of the class takes a massive dive you are likely to get your money back on a decent and well regarded bike.

[crazy man]

It just looked like fun. The problem is if I start spending I dont stop. Idd rather just be having fun at a low cost.

what would you do if glen w gets into buckets

[F5 Dave]

No question, its a shitter best left to junior to thrash around the fields (not saying that is a bad thing by any stretch, wish I had one as a nipper).


Buy a ready bucket or a crashed FXR & some tyres & plastic bungs (made from scrap).

People put petrol in them & ride. If they get really hooked they buy an exhaust & some wider wheels.

[avgas]

Any track a Bucket is on is a "real race track"

except smaller

[avgas]

Could I race a TS125 in buckets?

[F5 Dave]

Of course, it is a non competition model & indeed they used to be the staple fair. but if it looked that good I would probably have to beat you with a stick, unless you got me a 250 of the same vintage, which as I get older & softer in the head seem attracted to.

[jasonu]

I am really bloody sick and tired of these wankers that are trying to twist the rules or the wording of the rules or looking for loopholes in the rules just so they can enter (or sell) some sort of gray area machine. This is supposed to be a fun AND competitive class. It is not the world championships or something like the Americas Cup which was fucked up by that wanker Michael Fay and his lawyers when they found a 'loophole' in the rules and it has never been the same since.
How about buy a LEGAL ready built bucket or, for fucks sake buy an FXR and race that! It is not that hard to do it properly and still be completely within the rules. In the long run it will cost less, be less trouble, you will find heaps of advice from other racers for free and you wil not have anyone questioning the legality of your machine. And when you are done with your legal machine there will always be a buyer for it. It is not as if the rules need to be opened up because of lack of entries (like in the late 90's) or because one particular type of machine is totally dominant.
The presant rules work just fine as they are.

[avgas]

Of course, it is a non competition model & indeed they used to be the staple fair. but if it looked that good I would probably have to beat you with a stick, unless you got me a 250 of the same vintage, which as I get older & softer in the head seem attracted to.

So I can race and old trail bike in buckets but not a new trail bike?

(FYI if I had as classic TS125, 175, 185 or 250 they would become permanent artwork in the living room - just used it to raise i point)

[F5 Dave]

Your point was insipid. TS's were farm & play bikes & most were road registered.

The XR range at the time was an ill conceived idea by Honda that they could build a 4 stroke enduro, when clearly 2 strokes were lighter & more powerful. It was folly, but they pressed ahead & there you go. The 185s/200s 250s & 500s were marketed as Enduro bikes. heck in NZ they even had a 'competition exemption' for not having to run indicators. Think you'll still find it on our WOF rules somewhere.

The issue is; does that tar the smaller capacity bikes with the same brush? Before I would have said yes. Now I don't know.

[avgas]

I am really bloody sick and tired of these wankers that are trying to twist the rules or the wording of the rules or looking for loopholes in the rules just so they can enter (or sell) some sort of gray area machine. This is supposed to be a fun AND competitive class. It is not the world championships or something like the Americas Cup which was fucked up by that wanker Michael Fay and his lawyers when they found a 'loophole' in the rules and it has never been the same since.
How about buy a LEGAL ready built bucket or, for fucks sake buy an FXR and race that! It is not that hard to do it properly and still be completely within the rules. In the long run it will cost less, be less trouble, you will find heaps of advice from other racers for free and you wil not have anyone questioning the legality of your machine. And when you are done with your legal machine there will always be a buyer for it. It is not as if the rules need to be opened up because of lack of entries (like in the late 90's) or because one particular type of machine is totally dominant.
The presant rules work just fine as they are.

Technically speaking - Buckets didn't have many rules until about 15+ years ago. That was the attraction of them. Bucket racing was where men could be men, and women could also be men. Even leathers were optional.
Backyard heroes and the like.
People raced the dodgiest, rustiest POS they had.
Bucket class was for the bikes (and the riders) who didn't quite fit in elsewhere. Their bikes were too small for dirt/track racing, and they were too pissed/fat to go 250 class.
Sadly I feel most of that Nostalgia died when people started racing "bits of kit" in buckets in late 90's. Now its all "rules and regulation" - may as well call it the 140 gp class.