100 bhp is all I need debate - again

[ducatilover]

ZRX1400... same torque as the MT-01..... 110ft lbs
FJR1300... 100ft lbs of torque not bad for a decade old bike.... Hayabusa..94ft lbs of torque <<<<---------- but shitloads more HP
V max 123ft lbs...... B king 108ft lbs

Would be interesting to compare roll on acceleration between 'em.
It's not just the torque, but weight and gearing make a mega difference.

I lack torque, 66nm on one bike and 22ish on the other...

[short-circuit]

As for restricting what I ride, fucking try and stop me.

Been affected by rego hikes?

[BigAl]

Like money you can't have too much.

[The Pastor]

Would it be a bad thing if showrooms were full of engines that produce eye-watering amounts of torque not horsepower? I'd be up for it.

WTF HE ON ABOUT F00L. HE WANTS LOW HP AND HIGH TORQUE, SO LOW REVS...... HELLO HARLEY

[GrayWolf]

Quote Originally Posted by GrayWolf View Post
ZRX1400... same torque as the MT-01..... 110ft lbs
FJR1300... 100ft lbs of torque not bad for a decade old bike.... Hayabusa..94ft lbs of torque <<<<---------- but shitloads more HP
V max 123ft lbs...... B king 108ft lbs

Would be interesting to compare roll on acceleration between 'em.
It's not just the torque, but weight and gearing make a mega difference.

I lack torque, 66nm on one bike and 22ish on the other...

As I said before the FJ out grunts the ZZR on roll on top 2 gears (5 vs 6 speed) untill the Zed hits it's 'stride' then it's warp factor 9 Scottie. However you are in 'lose licence' speeds by then. I have posted in the FJ group and did post an excerpt again in another discussion.. An English bike mag did a comparison between the GSX1100, ZX10, FZR1000, V max and FJ1200... i think it was 80 - 130kph (50-80mph) roll on's in top 3 gears.. Basically 'real world' overtaking behavior in traffic. The Max and FJ buried the sprot bikes, and the FJ was within cooee of the Max, then of course the Max hit V boost... warp 11, Scottie!!

As an aside my ZZR and FJ are within spitting of eachother for revs at 100kph with both bikes in top gear, so roll on in top is fairly accurate for power delivery.

[JATZ]

FWIW... I have more fun riding the little DR350 over Takaka hill than I ever did on the 100hp+ Triumph. The trumpy was pretty quick but it's more fun backing the wee bike into corners and riding the bike within an inch of it's life

But I think that's a different question ... Do you have more fun with 100bhp ?

[DEATH_INC.]

ZRX1400... same torque as the MT-01..... 110ft lbs
FJR1300... 100ft lbs of torque not bad for a decade old bike.... Hayabusa..94ft lbs of torque <<<<---------- but shitloads more HP
V max 123ft lbs...... B king 108ft lbs

My mates old '81 GPZ1100 with a 1270 (I think) kit and some port work made enough grunt to spin the little 120 rear tyre just about from idle in first and second. Having power over the WHOLE rpm range is bloody awesome.
It's exactly the thing that all these clowns use to justify riding a thou sprotbike on the road, yet it is the 1 thing they don't do

[GrayWolf]

My mates old '81 GPZ1100 with a 1270 (I think) kit and some port work made enough grunt to spin the little 120 rear tyre just about from idle in first and second. Having power over the WHOLE rpm range is bloody awesome.
It's exactly the thing that all these clowns use to justify riding a thou sprotbike on the road, yet it is the 1 thing they don't do

yeh those 'big bore' kits from the 70/80's were a lot of fun..... something 'missing' from modern bikes.. the ability to swap barrels 250 to 350/400cc buy an off the peg big bore from Wiseco etc.....

[Blackflagged]

100 bhp RS125 would keep you amused for a while! Road track anywere.

[DEATH_INC.]

RG500, 95hp@ 9500 rpm. Yet to hear anyone who's actually ridden one call it boring....same goes with RZ500 too.
There's heaps of sub 100hp bikes out there that are a blast to ride.

[Nzpure]

ZRX1400... same torque as the MT-01..... 110ft lbs
FJR1300... 100ft lbs of torque not bad for a decade old bike.... Hayabusa..94ft lbs of torque <<<<---------- but shitloads more HP
V max 123ft lbs...... B king 108ft lbs

Was born in teh 80s fella give me some kWs and some nMs man!

[Nzpure]

Was born in teh 80s fella give me some kWs and some nMs man!

Well some nMs anways i can relate with HP.

[Ender EnZed]

FWIW... I have more fun riding the little DR350 over Takaka hill than I ever did on the 100hp+ Triumph. The trumpy was pretty quick but it's more fun backing the wee bike into corners and riding the bike within an inch of it's life

That might be as much a question of riding position as power. How do you find the 350 compared to your DR650 over the hill?

When I first got my DR I was amazed just how much fun it was on twisty sealed roads, even on adventure tyres. Relatively light weight and wide bars make flicking the bike around absolutely effortless compared to a big road bike. Motards must be fucking hilarious.

[DEATH_INC.]

Was born in teh 80s fella give me some kWs and some nMs man!

And you young'uns think of yourselves as the computer generation, google man, google it!

[GrayWolf]

Was born in teh 80s fella give me some kWs and some nMs man!

well maybe you'll see what we mean from this clip.... in top 2500rpm gives 110kph..... you can have some serious fun on sub 100bhp bikes.... oh 110ft lbs is about 150nm


www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_QbYOcoALM