Just bought my first bike, anybody regularly riding over Port Hills? (Mushu)

[Subike]

The thread u linked is a good read, but I think I'm missing the parallel if there was meant to be one. Except the fact we were both learners with a love of over researching things.
For a start, he seems a bit underexperienced to be riding on the road at all (so far I have only read till his first crash -its getting late, ill read if I have time tomorrow) remember I said I worked on dairy farms and have some experience of dirt bikes and thought I was bare minimum experience to ride in traffic.

Edit:
So I finished reading the thread, definatly something every confident rider should read to make sure they don't get too confident on the road.

But I hope you weren't seriously drawing a parallel between me and him, right from extremely early on he was a fucking idiot even the first time he binned it it was solely because he overcooked it and he went off pretty hard, my bike is only cosmetic damage and despite the fact I didn't get my foot out from under the bike till after I sat up it doesn't hurt much at all now except the light scrape on my heel. This is because I was barely moving when it actually went over.

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and you are experienced?
I have been riding fast bikes and have driven even faster cars since I was 13
thats 41 years of road usage.

I am a learner.

In that time I have never learnt how to accurately predict other drivers actions
I have never learnt how to read every road surface perfectly every time

The comparrison to the other thread is there for all to see.

Your EGO

[ducatilover]

In that time I have never learnt how to accurately predict other drivers actions
I have never learnt how to read every road surface perfectly every time

I don't know anyone (except Katman) who has managed to either.

Shit happens, you live and you might almost learn

[Mushu]

and you are experienced?
I have been riding fast bikes and have driven even faster cars since I was 13
thats 41 years of road usage.

I am a learner.

In that time I have never learnt how to accurately predict other drivers actions
I have never learnt how to read every road surface perfectly every time

The comparrison to the other thread is there for all to see.

Your EGO

I have an ego, sometimes it leads me to do stupid things, so do you, tell me yours hasn't ever landed you in strife. But that guy is all ego, no brains.

Never said I am the most experienced rider, but I did say I had some experience before I got out on the road, a few months of riding daily on and around a farm and about 50 hours of trail riding. It was the same for driving cars, started in a paddock and learned a few skills there that helped me a lot later.

I agree that I still have a ton of stuff to learn and have never tried to deny it (the book twist of the wrist 2 arrived on Wednesday, I found out when I arrived home with my broken bike)

I'm still a bit pissed with myself for doing it and I'm not looking forward to paying for it, so the last thing I need is someone I never met proclaiming he has the answer to everything, or some1 else who's telling me I'm just like some fool that thinks the road is his personal racetrack.

[Subike]

I have an ego, sometimes it leads me to do stupid things, so do you, tell me yours hasn't ever landed you in strife. But that guy is all ego, no brains.

The amount of times I have gone home with my ego damaged from doing stupid shit would fill a book.
Not only from driving episodes, but all areas of life
And agree with you its how you learn, find your limits, experience life
There is even some video footage on this site of this.
Yup have broken cars and bikes "being the man"
Have woken up after a night out to view the damage my ego did to my pride and joy and basically cried.
All I want to see is you get to my age and still be alive to tell the stories to your grandchildren.
And hopefully give some advice to the next young fella who's ego is getting him to push the limits to far with over confidence and bravado.

[Zedder]

Sorry to hear about your incident but that's the way it goes with bikes. Yep, learn from it and move on, that's a good attitude, at least you and the bike aren't too smashed up or written off.

Most Kiwi Biker members are deeply into their interest of bikes and it comes with a certain amount of sensitivity to "doing it right" which is totally understandable and may be why they react the way they do sometimes. The odd "slanging match" online happens but doesn't need to be more than that unless someone is really out of line.

Keep on biking.

[Mushu]

The amount of times I have gone home with my ego damaged from doing stupid shit would fill a book.
Not only from driving episodes, but all areas of life
And agree with you its how you learn, find your limits, experience life
There is even some video footage on this site of this.
Yup have broken cars and bikes "being the man"
Have woken up after a night out to view the damage my ego did to my pride and joy and basically cried.
All I want to see is you get to my age and still be alive to tell the stories to your grandchildren.
And hopefully give some advice to the next young fella who's ego is getting him to push the limits to far with over confidence and bravado.

Yea, I've had a night out and woken up to a broken car in the past along with countless other times my ego has lead me astray.

I'm not tryin to make any enemys here and I agree that in any situation less speed will lessen the problem. I'm just trying to point out there are other factors that need to be considered, and it is important to be in control of your reactions, over reaction can be costly. (I thought I had control over that but the 4x4 was truly unexpected and scared me.)

I bit back because the "I told you so" comment from transalp was not helpful at all, I think it would have been far more helpful for some one to see my riding, and comment on what they see rather than just percieve a problem on an internet forum.

This was the reason I came to little river on the WNR and met you Subike (I wanted to come to Hurinui with you aswell but had way too much to do at home, I would still like to go for a ride sometime, once the bike is repaired) and the reason I started this thread.

[jimichelle]

could write a long story with a hundred excuses in it but that would kind of work against this as a learning experience so all I will say about the accident is that I had chosen a bad line around the corner and was surpriesed by something and over-reacted.
I actually came off when I was stopping as changing my line had me on the edge of the road so I was going very slow - less than 10kph.

but im pretty sure my harley can go abit quicker than 10kph

how about less trying to go around cnrs at speed and just concetrate on riding i would feel a lot safer knowing theres one less idiot riding on the port hills

[Subike]

Yea, .

I'm not tryin to make any enemys here and I agree that in any situation less speed will lessen the problem. I'm just trying to point out there are other factors that need to be considered, and it is important to be in control of your reactions, over reaction can be costly. (I thought I had control over that but the 4x4 was truly unexpected and scared me.)

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You will have to go a long way to make any enemy's on here Musha

Only one has ever done that.

Skidmark!

[ducatilover]

but im pretty sure my harley can go abit quicker than 10kph

Come on, don't be silly mate.

[jimichelle]

Come on, don't be silly mate.

head wind down hill

[ducatilover]

head wind down hill

Sounds like one of my bikes

[Fast Eddie]

and you are experienced?
I have been riding fast bikes and have driven even faster cars since I was 13
thats 41 years of road usage.

lol.. do you actually own and ride a keeway 250?

good lord man, you should head back 41 years and follow a better path of progress and evolution.

u shouldnt be driving fast cars at 13. thats a big boy toy. not for you

[Subike]

lol.. do you actually own and ride a keeway 250?

good lord man, you should head back 41 years and follow a better path of progress and evolution.

u shouldnt be driving fast cars at 13. thats a big boy toy. not for you

well, I want to ride my XS 1100 1.1
but I also dont want to get it impounded for the third strike of driving with the wrong class of licence
so the keeway was the choice ti get my licence on.
And thinking that I like trying the underdog,
Me thinks Keeway, every one says Chinese bikes are crap, lets see if it will last 2 years on me riding it.
So far, 4000k in the past 6 weeks, nought has broke.
And its fun, which is what I want, something that is fun.
As for driving since I was 13, the blessing of being bought up on a farm with three elder brothers.
Their cars were available to play with, then I found out the road was more run......life started away from moms apron strings

[Fast Eddie]

why are you putting yourself through 2 years of riding that thing when u can go from learner to full in 9 month when ur over 25.

I like lamp

[ducatilover]

And its fun, which is what I want, something that is fun.

IMHO that is more important than anything