Appeal to help man paralysed during arrest

**Fast Eddie** · 28th April 2012, 11:17

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

So, if it is established the po po gave him a bit of the slipper or used excessive force, you're good with that?

Just airing a contrary view.

I'm good with that.

if ya break the law then you break the law and ur on the wrong side of the fence (teehee), they get enough chocolate cake, steak and tv in prison. somewhere along the line they need a smack

**scumdog** · 29th April 2012, 18:05

Originally Posted by Zedder

Yep, he actually made an earlier dumb decision (or decisions) that caused him to be disqualified in the first place so it looks like he's got a habit of doing these things.

He might be slow when it comes to driving when he shouldn't but I bet in the future he won't be so keen to get over a fence while cuffed...

**Mom** · 29th April 2012, 18:08

Hell of a lesson though. Stupid boy! Al, sorry to hear your whanau is dealing with this shit.

**Laava** · 29th April 2012, 18:35

It is a bit tough. I have never met the boy or his Dad but MamaJo has and the sistert/daughter is a very much loved and cherished partner of MamaJo's oldest son. So I know her well and know to a small extent what she has to put up with and what is going on. Note that the media still refer to Shane as the Prisoner! I believe he is currently in an induced coma and on a respirator.

**scumdog** · 29th April 2012, 18:37

Originally Posted by Laava

It is a bit tough. I have never met the boy or his Dad but MamaJo has and the sistert/daughter is a very much loved and cherished partner of MamaJo's oldest son. So I know her well and know to a small extent what she has to put up with and what is going on. Note that the media still refer to Shane as the Prisoner! I believe he is currently in an induced coma and on a respirator.

I bet all those that do runners etc don't realise that when it all goes tits up it's not just THEM that feels the pain. And wishes they hadn't been such a dick.

**Laava** · 29th April 2012, 19:52

When the druggy fog clears from his brain he is going to start really suffering!

**tigertim20** · 29th April 2012, 20:12

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie

I'm good with that.

if ya break the law then you break the law and ur on the wrong side of the fence (teehee), they get enough chocolate cake, steak and tv in prison. somewhere along the line they need a smack

so if your missus was arrested for DIC after having two glasses of wine with dinner, was handcuffed, and pushed over a fence by a cop, resulting in a broken neck, you would hold no grievance against the cops?
I doubt that.

Its funny how the KB jury seem comfortable with making a decision, without having all the facts - but were so uproariously opposed to the levy increases, because they believed there was contrary evidence . . .

something smells funny here, and for once it aint my undies...

**DMNTD:Me** · 29th April 2012, 20:13

Originally Posted by mashman

So he broke his neck in Police custody? Aided by the Police? Yup, totally his own fault.

My thoughts exactly...muppet or not, no one (well not many) deserve that if that is what actually happened.

**ducatilover** · 29th April 2012, 20:14

Originally Posted by tigertim20

so if your missus was arrested for DIC after having two glasses of wine with dinner, was handcuffed, and pushed over a fence by a cop, resulting in a broken neck, you would hold no grievance against the cops?
I doubt that.

Its funny how the KB jury seem comfortable with making a decision, without having all the facts - but were so uproariously opposed to the levy increases, because they believed there was contrary evidence . . .

something smells funny here, and for once it aint my undies...

What proof do we have that he was pushed? (I'll happily stand/sit/type corrected)

**DMNTD:Me** · 29th April 2012, 20:15

Originally Posted by ducatilover

What proof do we have that he was pushed? (I'll happily stand/sit/type corrected)

Sure...but what proof do you have that he wasn't?

Pitch forks at dawn?

**scumdog** · 29th April 2012, 20:21

Originally Posted by ducatilover

What proof do we have that he was pushed? (I'll happily stand/sit/type corrected)

Hey, this IS Kiwibiker!

No proof needed.

Ever.
And facts equally are not needed...

**Fast Eddie** · 29th April 2012, 20:21

Originally Posted by tigertim20

so if your missus was arrested for DIC after having two glasses of wine with dinner, was handcuffed, and pushed over a fence by a cop, resulting in a broken neck, you would hold no grievance against the cops?
I doubt that.

lol hang on, why would she need to get pushed over a fence in the first place?

**Bikemad** · 29th April 2012, 20:25

Originally Posted by tigertim20

something smells funny here, and for once it aint my undies...

no but you could use a mint

**tigertim20** · 29th April 2012, 20:32

Originally Posted by ducatilover

What proof do we have that he was pushed? (I'll happily stand/sit/type corrected)

thats half my point - there is an opinion in this thread that 'fuck him, he was a bit of a troublesome bugger, so fuck him, tough shit' - I was trying to point out that there are facts yet to be heard before anyone can really go giving a well reasoned, properly considered opinion, my post was in reference to HDC asking this:

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

So, if it is established the po po gave him a bit of the slipper or used excessive force, you're good with that?

Just airing a contrary view.

to which fast eddie replied that yes, he would have been okay with it if that was the case

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie

lol hang on, why would she need to get pushed over a fence in the first place?

why does that matter? you said that IF the cop used excessive force or gave him a bit of the slipper, and in doing to caused, or heavily contributed to his injuries, you would definitely be okay with that - there was no discussion as to why it occurred, you simply made a blanket statement that you would be okay with that cause/effect scenario, regardless of the circumstances.
Its easy to make a 'fuck him' type comment about some cunt youve never met, but now that a theoretical circumstance involves you, or someone close to you, you suddenly want to ask more questions, and consider the other factors and circumstances . . .