Advice wanted on heading to Brass Monkey

[Conquiztador]

It's NOT the amount of alcohol that causes the problems .... but the with the loss of core body heat. I know of a few that claimed the same as you. And after an enforced period of having no external heat source (due to weather/road conditions or an "off") Hypothermia set in.

Your comment is not advice that should be given to those with no cold weather riding experience.

Thank fucken god you rode in on your white stallion then.

[Macontour]

Just in case anybody isn't clear, drinking alcohol in order to "warm up" is a bad idea (at least in the absense of some external heat source to ACTUALLY warm you up at the same time), it might make you "feel warmer" for a short while, but it's at the expense of your core body heat, and once that's gone, so are you.

A nip or two actually causes your blood vessels to dilate, moving warm blood closer to the surface of your skin, making you feel warmer temporarily. At the same time, however, those same veins pumping blood closer to the skin's surface cause you to lose core body heat — the heat you need to survive, especially if you're stuck in a snowdrift . This effect could lead to fatal hypothermia."

What he said. It is a long held fallacy that the booze makes you warmer, it only makes you "feel" warmer. In reality you are losing valuable heat.

[Winston001]

now i have your attention
brass monkey.... being a learner from chch, can i get there and back in one piece and what do i need to be prepared !
any tips would be appreciated but not the grammer kind of tips or the your a girl you wont make it kind of tips, or the youve posted this thread in the wrong part.....

Lots of excellent advice here. My mate went to the Brass from Chch one time on a GN250. He's an experienced rider and his main complaint was the distance into a cold southerly. I suggest you break the trip up, going to Oamaru or Palmerston on Friday, and the site on Saturday. There will be many bikes on the roads both days so you won't be alone - lots of help if you need it. Alternatively leave Chch really early on Saturday morning so you can pace yourself.

The Brass is in mid-winter which can mean darkness by 5pm. In fact it can be bloody gloomy by 4. So arrive middayish to give yourself time to set up camp and wander around. Once the bonfire is lit there is plenty of light and heat.

I've been to the Brass many times, lately riding a Toyota Prado which has a camping ground in the back seat. It really is an iconic rally, one of those experiences you should have, and something you won't forget.

[Winston001]

Incidentally there will be a large crew from Chch heading south. If you aren't going with anyone else, you should link up with some KBers. Just put up a thread asking.

[FJRider]

And ... regardless how bad a condition the roads there and back are ... the Rally site itself will be in worse condition. If it's raining the site will be muddy .... and/or slippery. Off the main tracks the ground can be very uneven ... with large rocks to knock holes in the sump, and/or holes to swollow the front wheel ... Even a slight smooth slope with a dew on it can cause a slide and drop.

But don't worry ... plenty of people will be around at critical points ... with a camera to record your embarrasing off ...

[Ender EnZed]

There's lots of good advice in this thread. But don't forget that Chch to Oturehua is only half a days ride at average traffic speed. Unless you're of the age where death stalks you at every turn then in terms of simply getting there it'd be a lot easier to overthink it than to fuck it up.

Get petrol in Timaru and Palmerston. And don't fall off.

[FJRider]

There's lots of good advice in this thread. But don't forget that Chch to Oturehua is only half a days ride at average traffic speed. Unless you're of the age where death stalks you at every turn then in terms of simply getting there it'd be a lot easier to overthink it than to fuck it up.

Get petrol in Timaru and Palmerston. And don't fall off.

400 km's in (often) shit weather ... for a learner on a wee vtr ... the last 100 km's usually into the worst of it. More experienced riders make it a day trip.

It does pay to be on site by 4 pm (preferably with the tent up) as the light fades pretty quickly after that, as does any temperature at the time ....

Frequent but short stops to warm up is the key. Often you dont realise how cold you are untill you get to a warm spot.

[mossy1200]

Is vtr chick real or just another alt designed to get the guys dribbling.

[Ender EnZed]

Is vtr chick real or just another alt designed to get the guys dribbling.

I sense a "Tits or GTFO" post coming.

[FJRider]

Is vtr chick real or just another alt designed to get the guys dribbling.

This is KB .... reality ... ???

[Berries]

Just in case anybody isn't clear, drinking alcohol in order to "warm up" is a bad idea (at least in the absense of some external heat source to ACTUALLY warm you up at the same time), it might make you "feel warmer" for a short while, but it's at the expense of your core body heat, and once that's gone, so are you.

I can't imagine those words coming from the mouth of Chopper.

[Coldrider]

Is vtr chick real or just another alt designed to get the guys dribbling.

I thought the ginga had all the puppy sniffers trailing.

[rossirep]

Is vtr chick real or just another alt designed to get the guys dribbling.

chances are is just another minger bike riding chick who looks nice from afar, but is really far from nice..
100 meter hottie, or looks mint with a helmet on.. hahahaha, ;-)

[unstuck]

chances are is just another minger bike riding chick who looks nice from afar, but is really far from nice..
100 meter hottie, or looks mint with a helmet on.. hahahaha, ;-)

And heres me thinking it must be your girlfriend.

[yoyo 2wheels]

excuse me i happen to think gunts and a hairy chin add character to a woman! haha
im no butch manly angry fat ass lesbian thats for sure
heaps of great tips