Stoner to retire

[Crasherfromwayback]

I doubt he's jealous of an aussie who's never ridden a 500cc 2 Stroke GP Bike.
Everyone has an opinion, and Schwantz's is a valid one, shared by many!
Stoner thinks racing is too Business like!!! FFS of course it is, every top sport is big business these days, what did he expect when he reached the pinnacle of motorcycle racing?? A few beers, then a couple of laps, a slap on the back and a cuddle if you win?

Think Stoner could quite easily go buy a few if he likes. Should tell Honda he'll stay on for another year if they give him Rossi's NSR500. That'd go down well!

But racing has become more time consuming for them. They used to have what..12 rounds? How many rounds now? How much more sponsorship shit do they have to do now days? More than numb nuts ever had to do I bet.

Waaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

[SS90]

Are you for real.?I burst out laughing at your post...:failed to entertain us in any meaningful way?
"In my opinion, Stoner opitimises the " I love winning" Aussie that, quite frankly, is boorish."He is the antitheis of the brash aussie...imho

Of course Im for real... Entertain us in a meaningful way? Pffft, what selective memories we all have, what about "another Aussie"..... Gary Macoy...... A real "could have" situation for sure, and things didn't go his way, but the bottom line is, that little fucker entertained anyone who watched, he slid those bikes (500's too remember) like no one.

Gary Macoy was entertaining...... Casey Stoner is more like... Elvis Presley.... Bethrothed to a 13 year old.. Sick man, sick.

[Oscar]

I lol and loled at that. Schwantz has never liked Stoner...probably jealous seeing as Stoner has won so much more. Got his panties in a bunch when Stoner said Indy was a shit track. How dare he criticise anything American!

Schwantz. The dumbest biggest redneck to ever win the championship.

I have to say that Stoner's attack on the rule makers last week is by far the dumbest thing I've ever heard in the sport.
He blamed IRTA/DORNA for the sport's ills, conveniently ignoring the fact that between 1992 - 2011 the MSMA (ie. Japanese manufacturers) had complete control over technical regulations. Stoner was either to stupid to realise that it was Honda that had been driving the rule changes all the way back to the change to 4 strokes, or simply believed everything that HRC told him about the evil men in white coats.

[SimJen]

Of course Im for real... Entertain us in a meaningful way? Pffft, what selective memories we all have, what about "another Aussie"..... Gary Macoy...... A real "could have" situation for sure, and things didn't go his way, but the bottom line is, that little fucker entertained anyone who watched, he slid those bikes (500's too remember) like no one.

Gary Macoy was entertaining...... Casey Stoner is more like... Elvis Presley.... Bethrothed to a 13 year old.. Sick man, sick.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I have to say that Stoner's attack on the rule makers last week is by far the dumbest thing I've ever heard in the sport.
He blamed IRTA/DORNA for the sport's ills, conveniently ignoring the fact that between 1992 - 2011 the MSMA (ie. Japanese manufacturers) had complete control over technical regulations. Stoner was either to stupid to realise that it was Honda that had been driving the rule changes all the way back to the change to 4 strokes, or simply believed everything that HRC told him about the evil men in white coats.

I think anyone that's been watching for long enough will know they're fucking the class and the racing bit by painful bit regardless of who's pulling the strings.

[SimJen]

I think anyone that's been watching for long enough will know they're fucking the class and the racing bit by painful bit regardless of who's pulling the strings.

Honda should have not pushed for the 4 stroke change, instead concentrated on cleaning up the emissions of the 2 smokers which is possible, Shit even diesels run clean these days with direct injection etc.....
At least then we'd have a finite point of difference to other motorcycle racing and classes.
Alternatively ditch most of the rider aids completely!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Honda should have not pushed for the 4 stroke change, instead concentrated on cleaning up the emissions of the 2 smokers which is possible, Shit even diesels run clean these days with direct injection etc.....
At least then we'd have a finite point of difference to other motorcycle racing and classes.
Alternatively ditch most of the rider aids completely!

You'll get no argument from me there!!! And I bet Stoner would stay if they announced they were going back the 500's.

[5150]

You'll get no argument from me there!!! And I bet Stoner would stay if they announced they were going back the 500's.

But then he would probably whinge that the 2 stroke exhaust fumes were making him sick so he had to slow down..... etc etc

[Crasherfromwayback]

But then he would probably whinge that the 2 stroke exhaust fumes were making him sick so he had to slow down..... etc etc

Considering he grew up on them I very much doubt it.

[slowpoke]

Schwantz on Stoner:

I lol and loled at that. Schwantz has never liked Stoner...probably jealous seeing as Stoner has won so much more. Got his panties in a bunch when Stoner said Indy was a shit track. How dare he criticise anything American!

Schwantz. The dumbest biggest redneck to ever win the championship.

Like you Pete I'm not a big fan of Schwantz's commentary these days, but I kinda support him on this one. For all that Stoner has done to raise the bar for the other riders I reckon Stoner needs to go and sling some wires in someone's roof space, or install underfloor insulation, flip burgers or whatever to get some real perspective on what constitutes a mongrel job. Sure the media stuff and outside commitments must be a lil' wearying.....but fukn hell, even without getting to ride an awesome machine at the best tracks in the world that sort of stuff just doesn't rate on the "crap-job-o-meter".

And the guys of Schwantz's era wouldn't give a shit what they were being paid to race as long as it was competitive and gave them a chance to fight for the win. Guys like Ron Haslam were happy to have the opportunity to ride heaps of shit like the Elf Honda, and NR500 while others raced the vastly underpowered NS500 triples against the NSR V4's. They appreciated the opportunity....any opportunity. I admire Stoner's amazing talent to but to chuck it in because the toys that someone else is paying for aren't good enough for him? Pretty average attitude.

A 2 manufacturer, single digit grid does not a World Championship make, yet he'd happily lose the CRT scenario and head down that road.

[Crasherfromwayback]

A 2 manufacturer, single digit grid does not a World Championship make, yet he'd happily lose the CRT scenario and head down that road.

Don't think anyone wants that. But I can fully understand why Stoner or anyone eles wouldn't want to share the track with the " My daddy's so rich he brought me a CRT bike to race" jockey's though either. Fuck that.

[eelracing]

But racing has become more time consuming for them. They used to have what..12 rounds? How many rounds now? How much more sponsorship shit do they have to do now days? Waaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Schwantzy could never of hoped to be getting payed what these current layabouts get,and he never took a backwards step say,like slowing down.

A little chatter giving you arm-pump dear?...ride it harder ya pussy!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Schwantzy could never of hoped to be getting payed what these current layabouts get,and he never took a backwards step say,like slowing down.

A little chatter giving you arm-pump dear?...ride it harder ya pussy!!!

That's cause he didn't deserve what they're getting. And they used to call Stoner 'Rolling Stoner'!!!!

PS: Ain't actually seen Stoner bawling his eyes out yet either!

[slowpoke]

Don't think anyone wants that. But I can fully understand why Stoner or anyone eles wouldn't want to share the track with the " My daddy's so rich he brought me a CRT bike to race" jockey's though either. Fuck that.

There maybe some rich daddies but if you're good enough to qualify for a MotoGP race you're no numpty and Stoner needs to show a lil' more respect. So they're 2 seconds a lap slower than him, they're still riding at a level that very few people can. And when the race starts how often does he ever really see them? He needs to go back and look at some races of not that long ago when lapping was a common occurence and the grid was far more spread than it is now. Just as well he wasn't racing in the 500GP era.

Maybe he doesn't appreciate the levelling of the playing field? He's climbed (undeniably through his own skill) to the top of the machine evolutionary tree and all of a sudden all that effort could be wiped away if we go the full CRT route. There's a bit more of the lottery feel about the rides people accept in the next coupla years 'cos the times/machines are definitely a changin'.

I appreciate the whole retirement thing is a lot more complicated than we know but hopefully some time away from the sport will give him a new perspective and we see him back sooner rather than later/never.

[gixerracer]

There maybe some rich daddies but if you're good enough to qualify for a MotoGP race you're no numpty and Stoner needs to show a lil' more respect. So they're 2 seconds a lap slower than him, they're still riding at a level that very few people can. And when the race starts how often does he ever really see them? He needs to go back and look at some races of not that long ago when lapping was a common occurence and the grid was far more spread than it is now. Just as well he wasn't racing in the 500GP era.

Maybe he doesn't appreciate the levelling of the playing field? He's climbed (undeniably through his own skill) to the top of the machine evolutionary tree and all of a sudden all that effort could be wiped away if we go the full CRT route. There's a bit more of the lottery feel about the rides people accept in the next coupla years 'cos the times/machines are definitely a changin'.

I appreciate the whole retirement thing is a lot more complicated than we know but hopefully some time away from the sport will give him a new perspective and we see him back sooner rather than later/never.

You are all missing his point! I dont enjoy doing what im doing so im leaving. Its pretty fucken simple, why should he stick around and risk life and limb just so people can watch him on the telly. Come on folks get over it. If your unhapp in your job or relationship you leave eventually. He has said for a while hes not enjoyed so what sthe big deal.
I say good on him for having the balls to do it. Better than ending up smashed up like Doohan or Schwamtz or even worse Rainey.