LOL @ smoke tax increase!

[scumdog]

Stopped smoking 1 month ago (again) for no other reason than I want to quit.

I have done a lot of things in my life some not especially proud of but starting smoking is the one thing I regret - things you do to look cool when your young

Kinda back up what was said here in an earleir post on this thread:

"And the reason I started is (a) 'cos I could - or (b) 'cos when I was young and silly EVERYBODY else was and I thought I'd be cool if I smoked."
Or something like that.

[BMWST?]

I wonder how long before Life/Health insurance premiums will be increased ... or refused cover entirely for smokers ...

When the "I didn't know it was dangerous generation" dies out ... the changes may be radical.

where have you been hiding?Whats the first question they ask you when talking about health or life(death actually) insurance

[Maha]

Like riding a bike then, as has been pointed out earlier. Bloody death traps.

Correct, lets put that in perspective...

''freedom of choice should be devoid when it has an undesireable affect on others or those around you''.

Comparatively speaking, when a motorcyclists rides with total disregard for those around him/her, then that is considered to have an undesirable affect on those around that rider.

In summary...would it be the polite to ask a rider that disregards others around him/her, to move on and ride elsewhere?

[carbonhed]

and where in the world has banned nicotine as an inecticide?

jackass.

Errrrrr... here. 1975.

Any other questions?

[mashman]

Any other questions?

Does that include puttin nicotine patches on yer veges?

[Berries]

Correct, lets put that in perspective...

''freedom of choice should be devoid when it has an undesireable affect on others or those around you''.

Comparatively speaking, when a motorcyclists rides with total disreguard for those around him/her, then that is considered to have an undesirable affect on those around that rider.

In summary...would it be the polite to ask a rider that disreguards others around him/her, to move on and ride elsewhere?

I was thinking of passive motorcycling for want of a better term. Some may say that the simple use of a motorcycle shows a disregard for oneself and those around you such as friends and family. Start banning something because it is bad for your health and I don't think there would be enough cotton wool in the world to wrap us all in. Which is hazardous to those who pick it by the way.

[FJRider]

Correct, lets put that in perspective...

''freedom of choice should be devoid when it has an undesireable affect on others or those around you''.

Comparatively speaking, when a motorcyclists rides with total disreguard for those around him/her, then that is considered to have an undesirable affect on those around that rider.

In summary...would it be the polite to ask a rider that disreguards others around him/her, to move on and ride elsewhere?

The freedom of choice has been given by the many, that fought and died to ensure it continues .... and long may it continue. That freedom is not the issue.

The disregard for others is about self. The "my rights are more important than everybody elses" brigade.

And when the shit hits the fan ... "it's not my fault" is heard ... along with "I didn't think that would happen" ...

And ... everywhere else don't want them around either ...

[bluninja]

I was thinking of passive motorcycling for want of a better term. Some may say that the simple use of a motorcycle shows a disregard for oneself and those around you such as friends and family. Start banning something because it is bad for your health and I don't think there would be enough cotton wool in the world to wrap us all in. Which is hazardous to those who pick it by the way.

passive motorcycling, don't you mean passive motorcycling accidents If you were to apply the logic in your post then it would be passive cage driving that is hazardous to health and wellbeing (though some motorcyclsits try removing themselves from the gene pool all by themselves).

I agree with the sentiment.....I wouldn't want hot curries banned due to the health effects due to passive inhalation of curry farts Just waiting for the rain to stop before I paddle to the takeaway for tomorrows toxic waste.

[Mungatoke Mad]

Would someone care to list the benefits of smoking?

It's becoming a cash crop that can supplement weed growers Income during the off season

[Ocean1]

In summary...would it be the polite to ask a rider that disregards others around him/her, to move on and ride elsewhere?

No. If he wanted to ride elswhere he'd be there, so riding elsewhere would obvoiusly have an undesirable effect on him.

Your perspective is just that. Yours.

[Akzle]

i don't think they banned nicotine as an insecticide as such, they may have removed it from shop shelves etc but people are still very free to make their own.
could you actually point to an article or law (statute) to back that up? both the HSNO and ACVM acts dont seem to...

i reckon they should have to plaster car panels, bonnet etc with gruesome images of crashes and car related injuries... like kids being run over... the same as they did to smoke packs.

they also took the information off the packs, it used to e informed consumer decision, now it is just anti-smoking propaganda.
smoking does not cause gangrene, either. so it's a lie, and propaganda.
it used to tell you just how much tar, CO and other crap you'd get in your pack. now...


i don't think anti-smokers realise just how offensive their constant whining is... you put on our clothes the next day... and they're still whining all over the place...

[Maha]

No. If he wanted to ride elswhere he'd be there, so riding elsewhere would obvoiusly have an undesirable effect on him.

Your perspective is just that. Yours.

What I was alluding to in that post was...that there should be no comparison made between someone smoking and riding a motorcycle.
I was playng devils advicate.

There will be another thread just like this after next years Budget, and the one after that, and the one after that, and the one after that and so on.

But I stand by this...
'freedom of choice should be devoid when it has an undesireable affect on others or those around you'.
Because if I ''choose'' to stand there and piss on your feet...that should be ok..........right?

[scumdog]

i don't think anti-smokers realise just how offensive their constant whining is... you put on our clothes the next day... and they're still whining all over the place...

Not offensive enough it seem - or the smokers involved would have quit.

I'll stop whining when they stop smoking.

WIN-WIN!

[Madness]

Not offensive enought it seem or the smokers involved would have quit.

I'll stop whining whe they stop smoking.

WIN-WIN!

I'm going outside for a smoke where I can't hear you whine.

[ducatilover]

Not offensive enough it seem - or the smokers involved would have quit.

I'll stop whining when they stop smoking.

WIN-WIN!

Your Harley offends me. It is likely to kill you. I shall ban it.
And shoe laces, fuck them, dangerous things.