MotoGP 2012

**george formby** · 12th June 2012, 15:13

Originally Posted by ktm84mxc

Crashers correct the FIM set the guide lines of 500cc max cylinders 4 and a dry weight that varied from yr to yr, 250s only 2 cylinders, 125s 1 cylinder so that saw the demise of the four strokes , ah the sounds of a Honda 350 inline 6 4 banger pure nostalgia .

I recently read an article by Alan Cathcart, on his most memorable bikes. The Honda featured, he stalled it coming into a corner. At 9000rpm. Crikey!

A thought crossed the vacant landscape of my mind at the weekend.. What happens to all the ex GP bikes? I know their are quite a lot in collections, museums etc but their must have been thousands of them left by the wayside over the decades. Particularly the last two or three with so many changes.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 12th June 2012, 15:39

Originally Posted by george formby

.. What happens to all the ex GP bikes? I know their are quite a lot in collections, museums etc but their must have been thousands of them left by the wayside over the decades. Particularly the last two or three with so many changes.

Most of them back in the day got introduced to 'Mr Crusher'. Some of the racers put it in their contracts that they got to keep their championship winning bikes. Rossi was told he get to keep his 500 then wasn't. I can fully understand him getting the pip over that! Maybe if Honda want him back next year he can tell them "I'll sign, but you cunts can give me my championship winning NSR500" Just get it in writing this time!!!

**Oscar** · 12th June 2012, 15:52

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Most of them back in the day got introduced to 'Mr Crusher'. Some of the racers put it in their contracts that they got to keep their championship winning bikes. Rossi was told he get to keep his 500 then wasn't. I can fully understand him getting the pip over that! Maybe if Honda want him back next year he can tell them "I'll sign, but you cunts can give me my championship winning NSR500" Just get it in writing this time!!!

I've got an expansion chamber and muffler from Norick Abe's 1996 YZR500 that missed the crusher (not actually a crusher as such, they used the forklift at the back of the workshop to flatten the chambers, tanks and fairings - the motors went back to Japan).

**george formby** · 12th June 2012, 15:54

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Most of them back in the day got introduced to 'Mr Crusher'. Some of the racers put it in their contracts that they got to keep their championship winning bikes. Rossi was told he get to keep his 500 then wasn't. I can fully understand him getting the pip over that! Maybe if Honda want him back next year he can tell them "I'll sign, but you cunts can give me my championship winning NSR500" Just get it in writing this time!!!

The thought of that almost has me reaching for the kleenex.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 12th June 2012, 15:54

Originally Posted by Oscar

I've got an expansion chamber and muffler from Norick Abe's 1996 YZR500 that missed the crusher (not actually a crusher as such, they used the forklift at the back of the workshop to flatten the chambers, tanks and fairings - the motors went back to Japan).

lol. Nice. Purchase a metal detector and rummage round Yamaha's race department grounds to see if you can find the rest of it!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 12th June 2012, 15:56

Originally Posted by george formby

The thought of that almost has me reaching for the kleenex.

You and me both.

**Oscar** · 12th June 2012, 16:02

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

lol. Nice. Purchase a metal detector and rummage round Yamaha's race department grounds to see if you can find the rest of it!

It arrived as cabin luggage in 1997.
Imagine walking onto a plane with an expansion chamber under yer arm these days!

There are also four YZR pistons, another YZR chamber & muffler and a chamber off of a KR3 kicking around here somewheres....

**Crasherfromwayback** · 12th June 2012, 16:05

Originally Posted by Oscar

It arrived as cabin luggage in 1997.
Imagine walking onto a plane with an expansion chamber under yer arm these days!

.

Yeah for sure. If it was one for the rear cyl's they'd think it was a fucking rocket launcher!

**pritch** · 12th June 2012, 19:38

Lorenzo has reportedly signed a new two year deal with Yamaha for 13/14. Nobody is really suprised that he has done that, but most (including me) are surprised that he has done so this early.

Honda has the next move?

**Crasherfromwayback** · 12th June 2012, 20:06

Originally Posted by pritch

Lorenzo has reportedly signed a new two year deal with Yamaha for 13/14. Nobody is really suprised that he has done that, but most (including me) are surprised that he has done so this early.

Honda has the next move?

Bet he added a few extra zeros to the contract! Honda will suck face and go cap in Hand to Rossi I reckon. Time he got his rightfully deserved NSR500 off them!

**tigertim20** · 12th June 2012, 22:02

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Bet he added a few extra zeros to the contract! Honda will suck face and go cap in Hand to Rossi I reckon. Time he got his rightfully deserved NSR500 off them!

this is looking more and more likely if the above is true!
after all the bickering and what not they have gone through to push the current format, theyd look fucking silly if they dont have a rider on their bikes next yea capable of regular podiums!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 12th June 2012, 22:24

Originally Posted by tigertim20

after all the bickering and what not they have gone through to push the current format, theyd look fucking silly if they dont have a rider on their bikes next yea capable of regular podiums!

I'd rather have Rossi than Pedro on my bike if it were me that wrote the cheques!

**tigertim20** · 13th June 2012, 01:08

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

I'd rather have Rossi than Pedro on my bike if it were me that wrote the cheques!

fair call.

what I personally think would be ideal is, Lorenzo on the yamaha, rossi on the honda, with pedrosa as his sidekick on the second hoonda, Ben spies gets his act together and sits on the yamaha as well, and I think youd have a fairly good battle at the pointy end of the field most weeks.

That to happen would require both rossi, and honda eating a wee bit of humble pie though, and I dont know if both parties will be able to do it. will be interesting to see how the politics pan out.

rossi obviously would like to avoid losing face any more than necessary, so maybe they will see what happens with the next lot of regulations that are going to be announced later on - its possible i guess that control ecu's etc have the potential to work to the benefit of something like the ducati - that could be anough of a carrot to keep rossi there if he sees the regs as having a benefit for him?

wait and see now i guess

**DidJit** · 13th June 2012, 10:32

I reckon Pedrosa will be the sole Repsol Honda, Marquez will be on the other factory bike under Monlau colours (to get past the Rookie Rule). Wouldn't surprise me either if Lorenzo's team mate was Dovizioso.

Nakamoto-san has already repeatedly stated that Rossi will not ride a factory Honda, but he's welcome to ask for a satellite ride.