Asset sales

[Oscar]

Seriously ..just keep typing i couldnt provide evidence of a true idiot, than you yourself have provided, though each and every thread you have contributed to

some would assume you to be a troll , me ,.,,,I am sad , sad that my grand father was killed in Al alamien (sp) , my family home in east london was flattened ,,,,,we borrowed how much from the Americans ?

no if there is a " revolution " sorry but stupidity isnt an option,,,,, you have wasted your life ( well done ,,you hero )

Stephen

Seriously, do you actually read what you post?
Hint: I Heard It On The Radio + My Grandfather Died In The War does not equal Rational Argument

I was going to ask you to step away from the bong, but apparently the problem is deeper than that.

[Oscar]

To join those Facebook shares?

Why would you buy shares in our assets? What makes them a good investment? Their growth prospects are poor (population based) which means the only way to increase revenue/value is to either reduce costs or increase prices. The former means that service and infrastructure will suffer and the latter means we're financially screwed. If you live in NZ there is absolutely no upside to this transaction........'course it's a lil' bit different if you're a foreign investor and don't give a shit about the general populace of NZ.

It is just incredibly short sighted to sell off profitable assets that over time will generate many times the $$$/benefits of any short term debt reduction.

If Don-Key is so sure of his mandate why doesn't he conduct a simple referendum that isn't clouded by the multitude of issues arising during a general election? Because he knows there is huge public resentment and he'd probably lose....yet he's pushing ahead. What a fine gentleman he is.....

It is a basic tenet of Government that you provide and secure essential services for the community, if they aren't up to the job they should never have contested the election.

Facebook shares?
That's funny - like no one with an ounce of sense didn't see that coming.

As far as the election is concerned, the Nats made it a clear and prominent part of their policy platform.
Get over it.

[Brian d marge]

I would be an idiot if I accepted your childish rantings without proof.


You pull a figure like 400% out of your arse and expect everyone to agree with you?
Over what period?
Which provider?
Do you think that if the figure was true over any recent period, there might have been a wee bit of a backlash?

Oh, I forgot, you heard it on National Radio, so it must be true.
Back to your paddock, little sheep...

at least u are thick skinned ,( sorry for calling u an idiot , that was wrong ) but in ALL of my posts say the same thing AN the evidence bears me out ...

So back to the bong I go!

How many people have told u the same thing ? and you dogedly stick to ur guns ...well done on that !

Stephen

[puddytat]

here's the Key to it all.......


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=487089487

The Left Wing is our only hope & I dont mean Labour....the right ignore the people at thier peril. History shows that they will take only so much.
Free market capatalism got us into the mess, you cant honestly believe that following the same old Dogma is going to make any difference or solve all the problems it has created.Youre fucked in the head if you do.

[Winston001]

You pull a figure like 400% out of your arse and expect everyone to agree with you?


Oh, I forgot, you heard it on National Radio, so it must be true.

The 400% comes from a report by Molly Melhuish who is a commentator on electricity issues. I think it was discussed with Jim Mora earlier this week or maybe Catherine Ryan. Can't find a link.

Generally the discussions on Nat Rad are very high quality, TV7 being the only other place for informed comment and debate.

[Brian d marge]

I would be an idiot if I accepted your childish rantings without proof.


You pull a figure like 400% out of your arse and expect everyone to agree with you?
Over what period?
Which provider?
Do you think that if the figure was true over any recent period, there might have been a wee bit of a backlash?

Oh, I forgot, you heard it on National Radio, so it must be true.
Back to your paddock, little sheep...

Not one of my better posts , Sorry bout that ...In my defence , pissed and was watching a program about el aliemien ,,it reminded me of my family and the problems it caused and got a bit pissed of , because it just seemed such a waste ..and if you let NZ slip away for what ever the reason.

I must also make a small correction, it was my grand mother brothers who were killed not in aliemen further south ...and it was my mothers father who was in allemen and had a terrible time that caused all sorts of family problems years later .....

East london I dont need to explain .....

Sorry for the drunken post , but the main premises still stand , 400% from quite a reasonable source .....dont sell etc


Stephen

[Oscar]

The 400% comes from a report by Molly Melhuish who is a commentator on electricity issues. I think it was discussed with Jim Mora earlier this week or maybe Catherine Ryan. Can't find a link.

Generally the discussions on Nat Rad are very high quality, TV7 being the only other place for informed comment and debate.

I am in fact a Nat Radio fan (except for Kill Him).
However quoting a figure of 400% by "some guy" on Nat Radio is not adding to the collective wisdom, is it?

[Brian d marge]

I am in fact a Nat Radio fan (except for Kill Him).
However quoting a figure of 400% by "some guy" on Nat Radio is not adding to the collective wisdom, is it?

its slightly better than the evidence you have provided .

Stephen

[Oscar]

its slightly better than the evidence you have provided .

Stephen

Evidence for what?
I've never made any claims.
You're the one that peeled out the 400% figure, back it up.

[Brian d marge]

living beyond our means and your conviction that selling the assest will be a good thing

treasury is usually very good in NZ ..so why should we sell? are we creating an imaginary crisis?

here is a article written by Ms Molly

Stephen

[merv]

So the right wingers Govt sells the assets. The saving on the interest payments on the debt repayed is about equal to the lost dividends. Nothing gained at all but they've lost the asset forever. Typical

[Winston001]

.....it was my grand mother brothers who were killed not in aliemen further south ...and it was my mothers father who was in allemen and had a terrible time that caused all sorts of family problems years later .....

Possibly Alam el Halfa which Montgomery deliberately left open to draw Rommel's Axis forces in. New Zealanders took heavy losses there.

My father-in-law fought at El Alamein as did some of my dad's friends. All passed on now.

Lest we forget.

[Winston001]

So the right wingers Govt sells the assets. The saving on the interest payments on the debt repayed is about equal to the lost dividends. Nothing gained at all but they've lost the asset forever. Typical

Well YES. And while I generally support our current government, on this particular issue I think they are plain wrong. So far as I can work out, soverign borrowing is at 3.5% and the energy companies pay about 3%pa so it pretty much cancels out. Might as well take the loans rather than anger the general public.

[Brian d marge]

Possibly Alam el Halfa which Montgomery deliberately left open to draw Rommel's Axis forces in. New Zealanders took heavy losses there.

My father-in-law fought at El Alamein as did some of my dad's friends. All passed on now.

Lest we forget.

cant remember the name of his regiment , Black watch??black something or other ( he joined up in london i think ....my brother know more than me ...have pm ed him
He had some serious emotional problems ,,all through his life ...

Stephen

[Winston001]

Black Watch! The famous regiment of Scotland. Respect.

As for your grandfather's battles, I keep thinking Sidi Rezegh but that involved NZ elements of the 8th Army. The Black Watch were involved early on in 1941 when Rommel and his Axis army (German/Italian) pushed east from Tobruk. The Allies were forced back to regroup in Egypt and Palestine and were very worried.

About this time Major David Stirling got permission to form the Long Range Desert Group which founded the SAS.

The significance of El Alamein is that it represented a bottleneck for the Afrika Corp. Turn too far south and they were into the Qattara Depression, soft sand, cliffs, and swamp.

There is a Black Watch memorial in the Western Desert which means this was a significant battleground for the regiment. I can well understand how he would have been affected. Many men returning from the war never talked - couldn't talk about their experiences.