Sports bike scum

[CookMySock]

I don't suspect, I know, if any one of you keyboard warriors were ever in trouble you'd be hollering for our boys in blue pretty quick smart

Er, yep, and they were no help at all. In fact, they got the fucking fine-toothed comb out did us for everything they could get their fat fingers around. Cunts.

Get off our roads and make em safer and pleasanter for those of us who ride with no expectation of being picked on and don't give other motorists cause to Hate bikers.

Motorists dont hate motorcyclists at all, and your lame attempt to pass opinion as fact stands for shit.

Soon there will be revolution if the government and their ad-hoc agencies don't stop targetting ordinary citizens for bulk fundraising, so if your boss offers you the opportunity to wear a weapon I'd suggest you took the threats in this thread seriously, and accepted his offer.

[skippa1]

Id be tempted too!


theres a bit more to it than that.

what it boiled down to, was that this occurred during an organised group ride - an annual event.
The previous year, a few bikes on the organised ride had caused some chaos, and the police decided to respond this year with these tactics.
The cops attitude was, by all accounts, in breach of the riders constitutional rights, the cops IS getting assholed for it, and its become a huge shitstorm on the internet, sadly fuelled by the losers that like to whinge about 'ohhh, all fuckin cops are cunts, and theyre all out t get us and they just hate bikes, and fuck the pigs' - when in reality, this was a fairly isolated incident, that is getting blown a bit out of proportion.

ahh..............What I saw in the OP was the suggestion that the cop had picked on this prick for fuck all........what I saw on the dash cam was a wanker that I would have punished if I had the authority.............or one of his mates......... What would YOU do if that was your job and you saw that action?

[idb]

Er, yep, and they were no help at all. In fact, they got the fucking fine-toothed comb out did us for everything they could get their fat fingers around. Cunts.

Motorists dont hate motorcyclists at all, and your lame attempt to pass opinion as fact stands for shit.

Soon there will be revolution if the government and their ad-hoc agencies don't stop targetting ordinary citizens for bulk fundraising, so if your boss offers you the opportunity to wear a weapon I'd suggest you took the threats in this thread seriously, and accepted his offer.

You start the revolution brother...I'll be right behind you.

[Akzle]

You start the revolution brother...I'll be right behind you.

okay. so now we are three...

unfortunately my plan invovled pretty much all the licensed firearms holders (about quarter million) and their guns.. (about 2 million)... then we could effectively suppress any resistance the government tries to put down and sort this bullshit out.

how does everyone feel about winston peters and tama iti?

[Akzle]

...Go for it and remain silent, no skin off my nose...

...I don't suspect, I know, if any one of you keyboard warriors were ever in trouble you'd be hollering for our boys in blue pretty quick smart...

if any one of you did what these wallies on bikes did you'd expect to go down, wouldn't you?

Get off our roads and make em safer and pleasanter for those of us who ride with no expectation of being picked on and don't give other motorists cause to Hate bikers.

i'm glad your nose is still skinned, sticking it the places you do without skin would probably lead to a nasty infection...

and no, you suspect. you don't know.
because i would phone my f*ing grandmother before i phoned the cops again, and i don't much care for her ineptitude either.

list of shit the cops have failed to do anything about:
burglarised house, perpetrators known, 3 witness statements.
stolen car, strong suspicions about perp. witness statements
stolen bike, full details supplied, no witnesses
stolen rifle, stolen airgun and they do ME for failing to secure them (inside a locked house with other people at home (albeit sleeping) full details supplied.
so never mind that some fuck is running around with a really really nice (expensive) semi rifle, just fuck me over because it's legal to do so... safer communities eh?

to re-iterate. i will not be phoning the police to sort out my f*ing problems. i want nothing to do with them.

i haven't actually seen either of the vids (limited bandwidth) but i really don't give a shit. in most cases where it's "people not doing harm vs crown policy enforcement" my sympathy will lie with the people.

if they were doing shit to endanger anyone else then fair enough to call them on it.

DEMANDING, just because you've got badge and gun, the authority to remove someones property to be used in evidence against them or others is 100% bullshit.

"our roads"...
i love how they're "our roads" but YOU get to dictate who's on them. why don't you stay off them so you can keep your sense of indignation in tact, and just on the off chance that you might give other bikers a bad rep.

[BMWST?]

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and now... B0b's "know your rights" hint of the day:

you have the right against self incrimination, which means you don't actually have to talk to police at all, much less hand over a "license" or "identify yourself"
you have the right to remain silent, even before those kind folk in blue give you that right.

you have to identify yourself if asked

[Akzle]

you have to identify yourself if asked

why?


really simple question. got an answer?

i'm me. the guy standing in front of the [the cop]... end of.
if they want to tie me to some kind of document, license, certificate... well. fuckem. i'm not a document, license, or certificate. i'm a guy. just like that.

[BMWST?]

why?


really simple question. got an answer?

i'm me. the guy standing in front of the [the cop]... end of.
if they want to tie me to some kind of document, license, certificate... well. fuckem. i'm not a document, license, or certificate. i'm a guy. just like that.

actually you are right to some extent

What rights do I have when I’m dealing with the Police?
You usually have the right to not give the Police any personal details. However in some situations you legally have to give your name, age and address;

• when you’re driving or riding a bike
• if you’ve been arrested
• if you’re in a pub and Police think you’re under-age
• if they think you’re a truant (not at school when you’re supposed to be)

If you are legally required to give your personal details, that doesn’t mean you have to give them any other information or make any further statements.

You don’t have to go with the Police to the Police Station unless you’ve been arrested. If you agree to go with them without being arrested, you can change your mind and leave at any time (unless you’ve failed a breath/blood test while driving)

You don’t have to give a verbal or written statement to the Police, no matter what the situation is. If you decide to make a statement you can change your mind and don’t have to go ahead with it Any statement you do choose to make can be used as evidence against you later.

[tigertim20]

this is a way longer topic than i'm going into tonight.
it will not result in an arrest. i did it just the other day.
and what charges? do you know? (failing to supply details when required by an enforcement officer? )

...and who are they going to charge with that?

Habeas Corpus!

they will arrest you as persons unknown, and lock you up, quite simple - the argument being that if you are unprepared to identify yourself, you pose unknown threats - they can and will lock you up.
All very well acting like a know all and having a ''fuck the cops I aint telling them shit" attitude, but belive it or not, the police have dealt with morons like this a thousand times, and they have effective ways of dealing with such people who think they know everything. Go ahead and try it, youll spend quite some time locked up in a cell while they drag their heels, as slowly as possible, until the figure out the best way of dealing with you. Its your time and freedom being wasted, they are paid to be there, so its no skin off their nose.

ahh..............What I saw in the OP was the suggestion that the cop had picked on this prick for fuck all........what I saw on the dash cam was a wanker that I would have punished if I had the authority.............or one of his mates......... What would YOU do if that was your job and you saw that action?

if it was my job, I dunno - theres a good reason Im not a cop, I dont have the patience for some of the people they have to deal with, Id bludgeon some lippy bastard with a truncheon and be out of a job fairly smartly I expect - full respect to those who do the job with dignity, fairness and respect, its a cunt of a job.
Yes the cop picked on THAT particular guy for no reason, Im not condoning that action as I think it was wrong and I imagine it will cause a headache for the officer involved, I was simply trying to add a little more information to the background of what happened.

It would be nice to think that police are capable of compartmentalizing their emotions, and acting professionally at all times, alas, like you and I, they are human and they make fuckups. You or I make a fuckup at work, and we are the joke of the day with our work mates - a Cop makes a fuckup and everyone is on their ass, BURN HIM!!! BURN HIM!! they shout. fuck he's human, it will be dealt with, move along.

why?


really simple question. got an answer?

i'm me. the guy standing in front of the [the cop]... end of.
if they want to tie me to some kind of document, license, certificate... well. fuckem. i'm not a document, license, or certificate. i'm a guy. just like that.

answer? because its our law. pretty simple answer really. like it or hate it we have one in this country, and if you dont follow it, there are consequences. is it that hard to understand?

[Madness]

what I saw on the dash cam was a wanker that I would have punished if I had the authority.............or one of his mates.........

Thank fuck you don't have the authority then. We've got enough cops with the same attitude here already, i.e "If I can't catch the offender I'll just punish some other cunt who may or may not be associated with said offender".

[skippa1]

Thank fuck you don't have the authority then. We've got enough cops with the same attitude here already, i.e "If I can't catch the offender I'll just punish some other cunt who may or may not be associated with said offender".

its human nature fella....get used to it. You are doing it yourself, you dont like my comment and you have grouped NZ cops in there with me

[Madness]

its human nature fella....get used to it. You are doing it yourself, you dont like my comment and you have grouped NZ cops in there with me

No, I'm not. You stated what you would do if you had the authority (ie were a cop at the scene of the video) and I compared that to the actions of actual cops here in N.Z under similar circumstances based on personal experience.

You're being a bit of a dick now. Sure you aren't actually a cop?

[skippa1]

No, I'm not. You stated what you would do if you had the authority (ie were a cop at the scene of the video) and I compared that to the actions of actual cops here in N.Z under similar circumstances based on personal experience.

You're being a bit of a dick now. Sure you aren't actually a cop?

shit...didnt mean to upset ya there, no need to resort to insults a cop.....thanks
are you really telling me that if you were a cop following a bunch of dickheads and they were taunting you, slowing down and speeding up in front of you and generally acting like you were unable to perform your job that when you got the opportunity to talk to one of the group, you would put all emotion to one side and deal with fact? I say BS.It doesnt excuse the cops behaviour but really.....????

[tri boy]

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stolen rifle, stolen airgun and they do ME for failing to secure them (inside a locked house with other people at home (albeit sleeping) full details supplied.
so never mind that some fuck is running around with a really really nice (expensive) semi rifle, just fuck me over because it's legal to do so... safer communities eh?

Lucky for the people sleeping that the crim wasn't in a killing mood aye.
Secure your weapons

[nosebleed]

ahh..............What I saw in the OP was the suggestion that the cop had picked on this prick for fuck all........what I saw on the dash cam was a wanker that I would have punished if I had the authority.............or one of his mates......... What would YOU do if that was your job and you saw that action?

What i saw on the original OP was a guy that was pulled over because he had a helmet cam that could be used to identify criminal activity (it's in the audio), and was then arrested for an obscured number plate.

What i saw in the dash cam was a group of guys that were obviously the instigators of said "criminal activity"

So I saw two entirely separate events events involving entirely separate people, the only commonality being; Motorcycles, a freeway, and the same cop.

What would I do if it were my job? i'd start by running more, improving my observation skills, and arrest the correct people for the correct offence (allegedly).

Oh, and I'd try not to handcuff people and then get all worked up because we can't we can't the helmet off!