MotoGP 2012

[GD66]

I'm actually a Hayden fan, but the stats don't look good. As much as the septic tanks are lamenting him having the wrong passport, if he didn't have an American one he wouldn't have had a ride to start with. Can you imagine say the Aussie national superbike champ jumping straight onto a Factory Honda MotoGP ride?

He's a non-stop tryer, an ex-World Champion, and nice bloke, but realistically the outright speed just isn't there. With limited seats and so much talent vying for so few seats the numbers just don't add up for him. Any other time he'd be fine, but with MotoGP in it's death throes he could find himself part of the collateral damage.

A damn fine summary of what is customarily overlooked when attempting to justify a seat for the Kid.

[BMWST?]

casey will win or bin at mugello.He is past tryin to fix it,he wants to win the Championship so its all or nothin for the rest of the season...that is evident with the result at germany,he wasnt satsified with 2nd...

[ecko_nzed]

This one
and while looking for that one I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HXqZh5oTK0
When men were men, Fuck the four strokes!

Schwantz was a fuckin legend, I still get excited watching him in these old races, even when I know the outcome.

[eelracing]

Schwantz was a fuckin legend, I still get excited watching him in these old races, even when I know the outcome.

Totally agree on that sentiment...just read that finish order of Schwantz,Doohan,Rainey,Kocinski,Gardner & Lawson.15 World titles between them on animal bikes that want to spit them off at every corner.

Cool bikes,dangerous tracks,bloody hard men...fucken good days.

[slowpoke]

Death throes?? MotoGP is certainly changing but it definitely isn't dying. Just because they're making it cheaper and easier for teams doesn't mean it's dead. Probably the end of 100% pure prototypes, but the championship class has only been pure prototypes (no production bits allowed) in modern history anyway. It's returning to something closer to what it used to be when everyone was running TZ's etc.

MotoGP is dead. It's a gutshot harpooned whale: a massive magnificent creature, thrashing in pain, but it's terminally damaged.

We're 4 years into the worst economic times since the 1930's. Forget insulated lil' NZ out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, instead think of any number of countries in Europe that are teetering on the brink of insolvency. Not households, or companies, whole countries. And there is absolutely no end in sight.

Yet after 4 years of this, and looking down the barrel of many years to recover, there is still no plan for MotoGP to adjust! There's lots of talk, and fiddling at the edges, and heads in the sand and unholy amounts of money wasted in the toughest times in living memory but there is no definitive way forward. So MotoGP is dying and it deserves to die.

It'll limp on for a bit with lots of arm waving and blathering substituting for clear direct action, but it'll eventually yield to natural forces and sink beneath the economic waves.

Yes, something else will emerge....but it will be MotoGP in name only.

[Maido]

sheesh, all this negativity. I like watching motogp, i don't care who wins, i just love to see shit going fast.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Cool bikes,dangerous tracks,bloody hard men...fucken good days.

+1. Man I miss some of the old tracks. Madness.

[DidJit]

sheesh, all this negativity. I like watching motogp, i don't care who wins, i just love to see shit going fast.

You're absolutely right. It is what it is, so let's enjoy it while it's here.

[rapid van cleef]

I watched a couple of races from 2001 last night. Man those races were full on all the way. Makes moto 2 look dull, never mind current motogp! I do love watching the racing but somthing's gotta change. Sachsenring was a little taste of how it used to be. I hope as the season moves on, the racing gets closer.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I like watching motogp, i don't care who wins, i just love to see shit going fast.

I fucking still LOVE it! But I do miss the smokers and the tracks they went to.

[Mental Trousers]

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ffs, the sport has always changed to reflect the economic times because it's had to. If that were the case the top class has died numerous times over the last hundred+ years.

When the world economy is flourishing race series do too. When the world isn't doing so well race series scale down and adapt.

MotoGP is just the name the top series goes by now. It'll still be the top series for bikes but every so often it will change and adapt. Even as MotoGP this is the 3rd (or 4th depending on how you look at it) major set of rules since it became MotoGP.

So far the only thing to truly stop the racing has been world wars so unless you're planning on blowing up the planet the series will adapt and survive.

sheesh, all this negativity. I like watching motogp, i don't care who wins, i just love to see shit going fast.

Good man!!!

[slowpoke]

sheesh, all this negativity. I like watching motogp, i don't care who wins, i just love to see shit going fast.

Me too! But head in the sand has never and wiil never fix anything. They need to make some strong smart decisions and instead they are fuckin' around with rookie rules. Dorna is Spanish yeah? And Spanish unemployment stands at 24%. That's damn near 1 in 4 out of work. Contrast that with NZ's paltry 7%...and we think times are tough...laughable. But back to the rookie rule, that'll fix things eh?

[DidJit]

The resurrection of the production racer continues...

[roogazza]

Me too! But head in the sand has never and wiil never fix anything. They need to make some strong smart decisions and instead they are fuckin' around with rookie rules. Dorna is Spanish yeah? And Spanish unemployment stands at 24%. That's damn near 1 in 4 out of work. Contrast that with NZ's paltry 7%...and we think times are tough...laughable. But back to the rookie rule, that'll fix things eh?

Heard that on the news this morning Spud, 24% youth unemployment. Few riots happening there.

The resurrection of the production racer continues...

Thats a neat looking little bike Didjit. Moto2 and 3 are going ok. The powers that be just need to sort moto1 to the same level.

[codgyoleracer]

Me too! But head in the sand has never and wiil never fix anything. They need to make some strong smart decisions and instead they are fuckin' around with rookie rules. Dorna is Spanish yeah? And Spanish unemployment stands at 24%. That's damn near 1 in 4 out of work. Contrast that with NZ's paltry 7%...and we think times are tough...laughable. But back to the rookie rule, that'll fix things eh?

Quite ironic really, those crafty Germans have gone from being the terrors of Europe , to the savours - & all within in one persons lifetime.

Like all businesses MotoGP will evolve, the 5 Trillion dollar question though is into what ?