Telstra clear and water

[Scuba_Steve]

Telstra clear... bought up by Vodaphone

Fuck! looks like I'm up for a new ISP soon then

[oneofsix]

Fuck! looks like I'm up for a new ISP soon then

You just got a new ISP, name is the same but the ISP is now different.

[onearmedbandit]

u are paying for the convienience ,

Stephen

Exactly. I don't mind paying for convenience, in fact I think it's one of the best uses for my money.

[Oscar]

well it WILL go to America ....Not NZ

stand back and watch those bills go through the roof ,,, no no sorry nice man on National told me it would be cheaper !

On a lighter note I emailed Jim Mora in the afternoon , I often do , Asked about the IMF and the water ,( Which has been clearly stated AND done before in Bolivia .......)

Just raise the issue I said , so he replies , claiming ignorance, Then ignores the issue , So I point him in the direction of some noteable NZ ( Jane Kelsey ) ..oh I understand now ...says he

well go on raise the issue , this isnt a Maori party , National party thing says I ,,,,....... nope still an inter party issue as was his program ....

I think , someone has been "told "

( I mean even if I am completely wrong , WHY are there so many "noteable " people /groups saying the same thing , on his program THAT day there was a feature about people dropping out FOR the same reasons I said )

No balls

Stephen

If your e-mail to Jim Mora was anything like your average post here (full of innuendo & conspiracy, light on facts, no references and/or proof of content, with shocking punctuation and bad grammar), I can’t imagine why he ignored it…

[Scuba_Steve]

You just got a new ISP, name is the same but the ISP is now different.

not yet they're gotta get approval from the commission 1st. But once that happens & they become one I'm gonna be on the lookout for a new ISP. I'd rather stay as far away from those useless muppets known as Vodafone as possible.

[Scuba_Steve]

Exactly. I don't mind paying for convenience, in fact I think it's one of the best uses for my money.

you only ever have to pay for 2 things in life... Convenience & Stupidity.
So yes connivence is the best use of anyones money

[SPman]

The understanding, when any arm of the NZ government wants to use a resource for a public purpose, is, that in the first instance, the owner of the resource will be negotiated with for that access, use, or ownership right and failing an agreement, it may be taken by the government agency under statute - and then shall be returned to the owner if it is no longer used for a public purpose. This is the core concept enshrined in the Public Works Act 1981 and its antecedents and other legislation dealing with expropriation by the State.

Q. So what happens when the original public purpose that justified the expropriation becomes a private purpose?
A. It reverts to the former owner.

It would follow that to the extent that the resource is being privatised then to that extent it should be returned to the former owners.

The government itself treats water as a commodity to be controlled, appropriated, bought and sold - they are property rights.

From the ideological mantra of 'there is no free lunch' and 'no-one owes us a living' comes "water is free"!?

Interesting how the Nats suddenly start espousing anarcho-socialism when Maori property rights are involved!

Yes John Key says, when it suits his purpose - No one owns the water! Bullshit - you can't have it both ways- if it's good enough for the government to take control of Canterbury's water for the purposes of handing out water rights to their farming mates, they haven't got a leg to stand on, without, once again, appearing to be the 2 faced hypocrites they are!

[Brian d marge]

If your e-mail to Jim Mora was anything like your average post here (full of innuendo & conspiracy, light on facts, no references and/or proof of content, with shocking punctuation and bad grammar), I can’t imagine why he ignored it…

yours wouldn't even get a look in then ........

..no proof ...I'm ALWAYS giving you proof ...you never do , so thats rich.

As for grammar, this isnt the place , this is a new medium and a place where I can talk ( freely ) using natural speech through the written word ( its a new concept , just like the printing press was when you were a lad , and spelling and Grammar started to be formalized, not that you would know why we use such rules , just following them is enough )

, oh and by the way , he never ignored the email, just wont raise the subject

So , your water bill wont go up? you Telephone lines wont be one of the most expensive , least usable in the western world ?

your electricity prices wont go up ? , the police are not being run as a private business ... Acc is cheap at half the price , oh don't forget to pay your student loan off

and Mr key is doing his best for us and the Olympics is still an amateur sporting event .......

Stephen

I know its hard , but unfortunately time have changed , I know you don't like it , but there you go ........( men can even fly , in the sky , I know I couldn't believe it myself … its true)

[Oscar]

yours wouldn't even get a look in then ........

..no proof ...I'm ALWAYS giving you proof ...you never do , so thats rich.

As for grammar, this isnt the place , this is a new medium and a place where I can talk ( freely ) using natural speech through the written word ( its a new concept , just like the printing press was when you were a lad , and spelling and Grammar started to be formalized, not that you would know why we use such rules , just following them is enough )

, oh and by the way , he never ignored the email, just wont raise the subject

So , your water bill wont go up? you Telephone lines wont be one of the most expensive , least usable in the western world ?

your electricity prices wont go up ? , the police are not being run as a private business ... Acc is cheap at half the price , oh don't forget to pay your student loan off

and Mr key is doing his best for us and the Olympics is still an amateur sporting event .......

Stephen

I know its hard , but unfortunately time have changed , I know you don't like it , but there you go ........( men can even fly , in the sky , I know I couldn't believe it myself … its true)

In a word - bullshit.
Just because you make some sort of reference to the IMF and Bolvia doesn't make it a fact - let's see your source.

As for "new medium" - gibberish is gibberish in any medium.

[Brian d marge]

In a word - bullshit.
Just because you make some sort of reference to the IMF and Bolivia doesn't make it a fact - let's see your source.

As for "new medium" - gibberish is gibberish in any medium.

again I have provided , more than enough , try Google for yourself ( selfish and bad mannered is one who doesn’t give to a conversation )

hint try trying Bolivia Imf , just a long shot .....

Gibberish is only gibberish if you the reader cant make sense of it ....others may ( then it ceases to be gibberish )

or try the time honoured kiwi put down , your an idiot ( usually because the speaker doesn’t understand ...) its an oldie but a goodie , save a lot of typing

Nice try , I know you feel scared with all these changes , don’t we all , but the world is changing ...sorry not my doing

Stephen

[Oscar]

again I have provided , more than enough , try Google for yourself ( selfish and bad mannered is one who doesn’t give to a conversation )

hint try trying Bolivia Imf , just a long shot .....

Gibberish is only gibberish if you the reader cant make sense of it ....others may ( then it ceases to be gibberish )

or try the time honoured kiwi put down , your an idiot ( usually because the speaker doesn’t understand ...) its an oldie but a goodie , save a lot of typing

Nice try , I know you feel scared with all these changes , don’t we all , but the world is changing ...sorry not my doing

Stephen

More gibberish.
Post your argument or dribble on some more, I don't really care.

[Brian d marge]

More gibberish.
Post your argument or dribble on some more, I don't really care.

you know Im right ,,,,but you could have stood your ground a bit more

Stephen

but on a serious note , I may be completley wrong ...bouncing off the walls nutty ...but there is too much evidence , "smoke" , ,as in smoke without fire ...... if I have at least got you to question , im more than happy , if not Im sad

[Usarka]

Stephen you're not saying that our ex-head of foreign exchange at merryl lynch prime minister is sympathetic with the movers and shakers in the international monetary cricles are you?

[Oscar]

you know Im right ,,,,but you could have stood your ground a bit more

Stephen

but on a serious note , I may be completley wrong ...bouncing off the walls nutty ...but there is too much evidence , "smoke" , ,as in smoke without fire ...... if I have at least got you to question , im more than happy , if not Im sad

On a serious note - if you simply post a comment linking the sale of Mighty River Power with the IMF and Bolivian Water and don't bother with a source or a skerrick of proof...what is there to be right about? Mashman makes more sense.

[Brian d marge]

On a serious note - if you simply post a comment linking the sale of Mighty River Power with the IMF and Bolivian Water and don't bother with a source or a skerrick of proof...what is there to be right about? Mashman makes more sense.

I was hoping yoou would reply , so you didnt open a new tab , and type in imf , bolivia ,,,, because the second hit you would have got is a report by the new york times

If you dont regulate sometimes you WILL get people cutting corners and an unhealthy society

Keep typing my friend , your just highlighting my point

Stephen