RGV250 rebuild?

**bogan** · 17th July 2012, 12:44

I was told (by the anodiser) that black would be the best color for it, due to minimal variation between the different alloys making up the part. He reckoned 120bucks for a swingarm, so I guestimated not much change from 400 for the frame and swingarm. And for that price I agree with imdying, color variation isn't worth it. Plenty of frames have come up nicely with powdercoating though, and probably half the price.

Originally Posted by imdying

An alternative is to buy a set of Tyga stainless expansion chambers. They're cheap and you can leave them natural finish.

Tyga have gone under haven't they? Might be hard to find the pipes. Worth it if you can though, a mate had some on his NSR

**F5 Dave** · 17th July 2012, 12:53

Anodisers are often very un-scientific, some are putting in the research, but most are old world. I think you'll find they work on a pot luck & 'there you go mate, that's what you get' approach

Either way modern manufacturers run different casting processes from 90s bikes that now make anodising possible if you know what you are doing. In your case yes I'd predict blotchy yueck. Swing arm 'might' come out ok. Some alys anodise better than others.

Rattle can pipes? probably best, but I'd add that you can increase your chances with preparation. A dip bath & some PJ1 pipe paint will do you better than a wipe with meths & some random 'Hi Temp' paint from Rrepco.

**Asher** · 17th July 2012, 13:06

Thanks for all the answers guys, sounds like this rebuild is getting cheaper and cheaper for me.

This is a reply to a email from one of the metal finishers in chch:
"We could do a Silver finish but not a Black finish. The problem is with draining and the chemical that gets trapped in the hollow sections of the bike frame. The cleaning chemicals also strip off anodising and this would badly effect the black finish while the silver can sometimes hide it better."

**imdying** · 17th July 2012, 15:04

Originally Posted by bogan

Tyga have gone under haven't they?

No, and are unlikely to.

Originally Posted by Asher

This is a reply to a email from one of the metal finishers in chch:
"We could do a Silver finish but not a Black finish. The problem is with draining and the chemical that gets trapped in the hollow sections of the bike frame. The cleaning chemicals also strip off anodising and this would badly effect the black finish while the silver can sometimes hide it better."

Yeah, just leave that alone, nothing to gain there.

My advice would be to refinish nothing, get it assembled and tuned, and then decide what you want to tart up. Then it's just a simple diassemble and reassemble with care. If you start painting shit now, it'll get raped when you need to have another crack at things. Even tuning involves taking it to bits and putting it back together somewhat; which is just more opportunity to scratch it.

**bogan** · 17th July 2012, 15:14

Originally Posted by imdying

No, and are unlikely to.

Ahh, it was tygausa that have gone under, not tyga performance. You can see how I might get confused!

**Fast Eddie** · 17th July 2012, 15:17

Originally Posted by bogan

Ahh, it was tygausa that have gone under, not tyga performance. You can see how I might get confused!

lol didn't even know there was 2? same company? cause Tyga Performance is also a yank firm..

but yea they still up and running, I got a couple small bits off them.. that and The Tuning Works - got you covered for 2 strokes! its mint

wish the old blade was this easy to get bits for..

**Drew** · 17th July 2012, 15:33

www.rgvspares.com

These guys have everything, and bloody well priced.

**Asher** · 17th July 2012, 15:45

Originally Posted by Drew

www.rgvspares.com

These guys have everything, and bloody well priced.

Too bad they have taken part of their site down

**imdying** · 17th July 2012, 16:28

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie

lol didn't even know there was 2? same company? cause Tyga Performance is also a yank firm..

It's a Thai firm, run by a couple of Brits.

Originally Posted by Drew

www.rgvspares.com

These guys have everything, and bloody well priced.

Whilst he is actually well known and respected, I probably would avoid him (or anybody running a business in a similar manner, it's nothing personal).

**Drew** · 17th July 2012, 18:11

Originally Posted by imdying

Whilst he is actually well known and respected, I probably would avoid him (or anybody running a business in a similar manner, it's nothing personal).

You're gonna need to esplain that for me man. I've got a VJ21 that I'm gonna need parts for, and that was gonna be my go to for the hard to find bits.

**imdying** · 17th July 2012, 18:37

Originally Posted by Drew

You're gonna need to esplain that for me man. I've got a VJ21 that I'm gonna need parts for, and that was gonna be my go to for the hard to find bits.

That we're closed but you can email me stuff has been on there for as long as I can remember now, and others I know have had trouble getting in contact, but have had the bits they want delivered. That's fine, but it's how too many stories about people never seeing their money again start. He's definitely all legit and well known, but just makes me wary... It's the kind of stuff that turns a wrong part into an ordeal. Given the choice, I would rather deal with Sean at The Tuning Works. That business is a major part of his life and he bends over backwards to help his customers. I know that's super flakey sounding... so you'll have to value it at what you paid for it I guess... but I'd really rather not see any of the RGV brethren get screwed at any stage.... trade for sure, just keep on top of it like you would an eBay trade.

**Drew** · 17th July 2012, 18:50

Originally Posted by imdying

That we're closed but you can email me stuff has been on there for as long as I can remember now, and others I know have had trouble getting in contact, but have had the bits they want delivered. That's fine, but it's how too many stories about people never seeing their money again start. He's definitely all legit and well known, but just makes me wary... It's the kind of stuff that turns a wrong part into an ordeal. Given the choice, I would rather deal with Sean at The Tuning Works. That business is a major part of his life and he bends over backwards to help his customers. I know that's super flakey sounding... so you'll have to value it at what you paid for it I guess... but I'd really rather not see any of the RGV brethren get screwed at any stage.... trade for sure, just keep on top of it like you would an eBay trade.

Doesn't seem to have the same range of parts that RGV spares did.

In particular, they don't have a set of segmented expansion chambers listed. I love those pipes!

**Asher** · 17th July 2012, 21:25

Originally Posted by imdying

For the pipes, just use cheap rattle can BBQ paint in satin black. When you decoke the exhausts it'll all fall off, and then you simply spray them again, and off you go

Whats tips do you have for decoking the exhausts? ive seen putting a gas torch down one end and burning it out but i dont really have access to one of those

**Drew** · 18th July 2012, 06:47

Originally Posted by Asher

Whats tips do you have for decoking the exhausts? ive seen putting a gas torch down one end and burning it out but i dont really have access to one of those

Put LPG in there and drop a match in.

Disclaimer, anyone who is dumb enough to try this, should be allowed to do so as part of natural selection.