Christchurch crash facts

[Katman]

but Nana Beryl and most younger immigrant drivers are frightening to watch at any speed...

Rest assured Ed, there's a number of motorcyclists out there that manage to fit that bill also.

[rastuscat]

What are your observations from accidents as to the proportion of those where speed inappropriate for the conditions compares with pure incompetence at any speed?

My observations include the fact that most of the Akaroa GP entrants wear leathers and ride bikes in an apparent attempt to make up for penis deficiencies. Of course, I'd have to scientifically back that up with a tape measure, but it's my own observation.

Certainly, if I were to stop someone and raise the issue of riding ability, virtually everyone thinks they are at least better than average. Even if I speak to them after they have binned, they still find something else to blame. Tyres, the road surface, the corner, the brakes locking up, always something else to blame.

Almost always, riding ability is less than the rider perceives it to be. Risk perceived subjectively and objectively are very different.

[HenryDorsetCase]

My observations include the fact that most of the Akaroa GP entrants wear leathers and ride bikes in an apparent attempt to make up for penis deficiencies. Of course, I'd have to scientifically back that up with a tape measure, but it's my own observation.

Certainly, if I were to stop someone and raise the issue of riding ability, virtually everyone thinks they are at least better than average. Even if I speak to them after they have binned, they still find something else to blame. Tyres, the road surface, the corner, the brakes locking up, always something else to blame.

Almost always, riding ability is less than the rider perceives it to be. Risk perceived subjectively and objectively are very different.

my penis is tiny. but thats OK my bike goes real fast.

[oneofsix]

my penis is tiny. but thats OK my bike goes real fast.

only counts if you have the racing leathers

[Edbear]

Rest assured Ed, there's a number of motorcyclists out there that manage to fit that bill also.

True dat! As he says below..

My observations include the fact that most of the Akaroa GP entrants wear leathers and ride bikes in an apparent attempt to make up for penis deficiencies. Of course, I'd have to scientifically back that up with a tape measure, but it's my own observation.

Certainly, if I were to stop someone and raise the issue of riding ability, virtually everyone thinks they are at least better than average. Even if I speak to them after they have binned, they still find something else to blame. Tyres, the road surface, the corner, the brakes locking up, always something else to blame.

Almost always, riding ability is less than the rider perceives it to be. Risk perceived subjectively and objectively are very different.

"My fault? How can it be my fault, when the tyres just gave way, or the brakes locked up on me..?"

[Asher]

The biggest danger for me on the Akaroa Highway is those bloody tourists. The amount of close calls ive had on that road is far higher than any other road i ride around Canterbury and it almost always involves an Avis sticker on the back window or something similar.

[Ender EnZed]

The biggest danger for me on the Akaroa Highway is those bloody tourists. The amount of close calls ive had on that road is far higher than any other road i ride around Canterbury and it almost always involves an Avis sticker on the back window or something similar.

On the back window eh? So you've been having close calls with vehicles you've been following?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Akaroa GP tips:

Dont go hard on that road because the consequences of a cockup will be bad, mkay.

If you are pressing on, wear good gear, and dont ride like a complete fuckwit.

Go early. Aim to be in Akkas before 9am if leaving from town. Most tourists are cruising and get there mid to late morning.

But: if early: there tend to be a few more trucks on the road.

Be very careful of bad repairs and shingle where you least expect it.

For maximum enjoyment, leave your sportbike at home, and ride a pushbike.

[rastuscat]

"My fault? How can it be my fault, when the tyres just gave way, or the brakes locked up on me..?"

Zackery.

[oneofsix]

A name for it?

Cooptown Cockups?

wakey wakey something just twigged. Shouldn't that be Cooplands Cockups? Your donut sponsors?

[Asher]

On the back window eh? So you've been having close calls with vehicles you've been following?

Yup, normally while following, ive gone that road enough times to know where and where not to think about passing so i ride patiently till then.
But i have come across cars stopped on the road so they can take pics, driving 10-15kmh and trying to read maps, do u-turns around blind corners, blindly pull out from car parks at Little River and the other Bays towards Akaroa.
Theres some pretty terrible driving happening on that road yet i almost never see a cop the Akaroa side of Little River, i guess they are after all of the speeders on the Taitapu side.

Another one to look out for on that hill is over heated cars towing boats.

[willytheekid]

Akaroa!

Yeah no thanks!, its why I don't do the wensday night runs...or sunday runs, every friggin time "lets go to akaroa!!", or its "lets piss around on the port hils till someone crashes"....screw that!

Last run I went on (years ago) over to..you guessed it...Akaroa!, I had some Rossi wannabe carve through the KB group like it was a bloody race track, he clipped my front wheel as he dangerously cut into the pack (To avoid head on traffic no less)...I was so close to dropping the Guzzi(A wee tank slap ensued)...And then the gutless little bugger proceeded to legged it! (...not like I was gonna throw him down a bank or anything... shhhh...I WAS gonna...a tad angry I was )

I find the bikes ARE the biggest risk on that road, I generally stay away from it, just to many idiots exceeding there abilities and its usually always at the cost of others.

I look forward to an increased police presence on that friggin road...AND during rush hour around town, I see some bloody dangerous drivers on my daily ride in & out of work everyday...yet not a single cop?...none! (and everyone seems too know it...so they drive like bloody manics in heavy traffic...can be damn scary some days)

...come too think of it...I havn't even seen YOU on the road for a looooong time Mr Rastuscat?, I hope all is well with you the bike and the family (We just had our baby Girl arrive 4 weeks ago (winter rose)..two of them to worry about now!...so tired!..ageing rapidly! lol)

ps: How is your officer progressing after the smidsy?, no lasting damage etc I hope, and I certainly hope you passed on all our thoughts & support

[neels]

No surprise in those stats....

I'd be interested to know how the stats for mon-fri break down, who's at fault, and how many are scooters vs motorcycles. Of particular interest would be scooters in cycle lanes and motorcycles using bus lanes getting cleaned up by right turning traffic, no agenda, just interested as I've seen so many near misses.

The road to Akaroa is not somewhere I go if I'm in a hurry, there is far too much random behavior from drivers and other motorcyclists. Police presence wouldn't worry me as I ride like a nana and I'm well aware that my ability is well below my bike's capability, that still didn't prevent me almost getting taken out by a right turning vehicle.

[Katman]

that still didn't prevent me almost getting taken out by a right turning vehicle.

No, your eyes prevent that.

[5150]

Traffic lights, cellphones, seatbelts, escorting sports events, VIP tours, stop signs.

And eating donuts.

You forgot "chaufering PM's to sports events at high rate of knots"