Leaky buildings. Thinking of buying a post '95 home? Own one?

[dangerous]

...10,000 new tradespeople is a bit of a misnomer really...a few will be tradesman, a lot will be good enough to call , experienced in some field, and the vast bulk will be poorly trained tools for the gathering of money for the crooks in charge of the rebuild...if it ever kicks off..and the dodginess has been obvious from day one and wont improve...

fark man... tis the main reason why I got the hell out... couldnt work with chippies that cant speak english (or spell it) ypu me man.. dieing breed... bread, fuck it

[JimO]

wonder how many of the "new" builders will be LBPs, and who will sign of a job done by numpties and be responsible for it for the next 50 years

[dangerous]

wonder how many of the "new" builders will be LBPs, and who will sign of a job done by numpties and be responsible for it for the next 50 years

Not me... refuse to be (yeah I knoe cut me nose of to despite me arse or some weaid shit) look 30yrs in the trade and ya cant teach me much yet the last company I worked for had ONE LBP in the company... what a fucking looser thick as shait, BUT he had the $380 or what every to pay for the licence... the systems screwed mate well screwed.

[ellipsis]

...it's coming back our way D...it's been a good break, despite being poor for a couple of years...fuck 'em...
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[Swoop]

...there was a 100% increase in permits issued over this time last year, but they didn't give total numbers

I wonder if that number is "two"?

[SPman]

"a pole house, with Harditex cladding" Who approved that?

1993 - complied with all regs and approved by local new Plymouth authorities.....

at least the framing was still treated............

[flyingcrocodile46]

1993 - complied with all regs and approved by local new Plymouth authorities.....

at least the framing was still treated............

Experpt from James hardies Harditex manual December 1992 (wasn't in the 91 version)

Harditex should not be used in full pole house construction where excessive structural movement could be encountered.
It can be used on the upper level of pole platform construction where the poles terminate at the underside of the floor level.

[SPman]

Ah - that's OK then........it was a pole platform house. (sloppy use of terminology there)...:-)

[Brian d marge]

...Linea weatherboards will warp in certain temps right?
Its happening to a few houses at Omaha beach.

Same with Bamboo flooring...our humidity here is just to tough for it, even the importers of the product will tell you that.

Humidity ??? you dont get humidity ....come over here !!! its 32 and well into the 70s or 80s humidity , I have curtains close , aircon on Max and traditional clothing and I’m dying ....fk me its hot

On saying that ,,,Im not a builder , but I do recognize crap design,,,such as Spanish style houses !!!

Stephen
ps vid wouldnt play !

[flyingcrocodile46]

New Zealand has a year round, outdoor RH of between 70–80% in coastal areas and about 10% lower inland. Indoor relative humidities are generally lower than outdoor relative humidities ranging, in New Zealand dwellings, from 30% to 65% during the day-time in a “dry” house, and 50% to 75% in a “damp” house. Cold bedrooms can have relative humidities of 80% - 90% at night-time. Generally, most people will be comfortable in a humidity range of 30–80% if the air temperature is in a range of 18–24ºC. WHO recommendations for a healthy home environment are for RH to be between 40 to 60%.

Our high average annual RH of 73% isn't good to start and with and our recent trend toward monolithic claddings and airtightness combined with NZers bad habit of not opening windows enough to allow a continuous air change rate of .5 per hour results in very high levels of mold growth and mold spore in the air... We have very unhealthy environments in our houses and as a result we have the worlds highest incidence of Asthma. When we occupy our homes the RH goes up between 10 to 30% depending on how much we breath, shower, cook etc.

Yes, it fucks with building materials as well.

If you want to understand it a little more you can read this to start with
http://www.level.org.nz/passive-desi...-condensation/


P.S The current trend to install heavily advertised ventilation systems is most often making no difference or making things even worse as they typically take air from roof spaces (which typically have a much higher RH than the living areas). Some have been installed to take air from the subfloor and that is even worse . There have been more than a few disasters as a result of poorly thought through ventilation designs. Simple passive venting through slightly open windows and good dehumidifiers are better imo.

[Brian d marge]

New Zealand has a year round, outdoor RH of between 70–80% in coastal areas and about 10% lower inland. Indoor relative humidities are generally lower than outdoor relative humidities ranging, in New Zealand dwellings, from 30% to 65% during the day-time in a “dry” house, and 50% to 75% in a “damp” house. Cold bedrooms can have relative humidities of 80% - 90% at night-time. Generally, most people will be comfortable in a humidity range of 30–80% if the air temperature is in a range of 18–24ºC. WHO recommendations for a healthy home environment are for RH to be between 40 to 60%.

Our high average annual RH of 73% isn't good to start and with and our recent trend toward monolithic claddings and airtightness combined with NZers bad habit of not opening windows enough to allow a continuous air change rate of .5 per hour results in very high levels of mold growth and mold spore in the air... We have very unhealthy environments in our houses and as a result we have the worlds highest incidence of Asthma. When we occupy our homes the RH goes up between 10 to 30% depending on how much we breath, shower, cook etc.

Yes, it fucks with building materials as well.

If you want to understand it a little more you can read this to start with
http://www.level.org.nz/passive-desi...-condensation/


P.S The current trend to install heavily advertised ventilation systems is most often making no difference or making things even worse as they typically take air from roof spaces (which typically have a much higher RH than the living areas). Some have been installed to take air from the subfloor and that is even worse . There have been more than a few disasters as a result of poorly thought through ventilation designs. Simple passive venting through slightly open windows and good dehumidifiers are better imo.

Having lived in NZ . ( and just returned from ) Auckland , chch and Napier ..and am now it Tokyo’s summer .... makes NZ look like a walk in the park ...trust me on this one ,, Mold growth ( we have just built a new house , you should see the Bathroom ,,,,,!!! constant battle )

Just checked the phone , its 33 humidity is 55% wind 14 km, ,,,I cant go outside , and if you do, about ten min later you are completely wet from sweat ... horrible

Our house ( rooms ) are closed up plants growing up the windows ( Goya , green curtains ) the curtains drawn , and the aircon on max ....and I still feel sticky and horrible ( a little )

I wont go into my workshop until October ,as its unbearable ,,,,

Give me NZ anytime ,,,Ill pay ! good money , please send "Cold " in as much quantity as you can!!!!

Stephen

ps , A lot of children diseases are on the rise due to "sealed homes " ...on saying that , I wouldn’t want to return to the place I used to live in London , they were draughty shtholes!!!!

I’ve become interested in "Eathships of late ....very tempted ,,,very .......

[flyingcrocodile46]

I’ve become interested in "Eathships of late ....very tempted ,,,very .......

Our building act and code makes it near impossible for meaningful development of alternative construction methods like earthships. You would have to be prepared to spend millions before you would be able to build one (for anything more than testing).

[Brian d marge]

Our building act and code makes it near impossible for meaningful development of alternative construction methods like earthships. You would have to be prepared to spend millions before you would be able to build one (for anything more than testing).

I know ,,, same in America, still there are always ways and means ....whats the minimum size for not needing a permit?

Just tested my bedroom , 39 deg like a friggen oven in there ...thank fk for cheap Nuclear energy ......

Stephen

[flyingcrocodile46]

I know ,,, same in America, still there are always ways and means ....whats the minimum size for not needing a permit?

Just tested my bedroom , 39 deg like a friggen oven in there ...thank fk for cheap Nuclear energy ......

Stephen

I assume you meant maximum. Yes, there are always ways IF you have the means

You haven't been able to get a "building permit" since 91 when they were legislated out of existence and replaced with *building consents* (waves to kickaha) .

This is just a small snippet of the first hurdle.

Schedule 1 of the building act. (about page no 276 ish)

..does not exceed 1 storey, does not exceed 10 square metres in floor area, and does not contain sanitary facilities or facilities for the storage of potable water, but may contain sleeping accommodation (without cooking facilities) if the detached building is used in connection with a dwelling:

It really is only one of the hundreds of hoops and in any event you still need to comply with the building code and run the risk of having to demolish your non compliant work irrespective of whether it needed a consent.

It really is fucked up.

[Ocean1]

It really is fucked up.

Ain't it just.

And why, exactly is it their business how we choose to build our own hovels?

And are they really the absolute authorities on quality construction?

And why aren't we demanding better quality for the fucking fortune we pay for "compliance" costs?