Drug busts!

[Edbear]

Police break the law on a daily basis, & they tend to pick & choose which laws they "uphold".
Like why spend so much effort on weed when 'P' is what they should be shutting down!?
Answer usually comes in the form of, easier target which still makes them look like they're doing something.
In the end have they really achieved anything? not really, just put a few small bottom feeders on a more expensive tax payer holiday while P carries on destroying NZ like usual.



^ that! The law is wrong when it comes to alot of things, but yes I'd like to see cannabis legalised & taxed the shit outta. NZ would be much better off for it.

That won't work at all. It is an addictive recreational drug and those who use it for that won't want to pay more for it to do it legally, it will drive an underground illegal operation further underground. Along with that you would require more stringent "policing" to ensure it does not come into the work place just as with alcohol. Difference with alcohol is that it is much easier to determine if someone is drunk.

And the Police are hard out on P as well.

[oneofsix]

That won't work at all. It is an addictive recreational drug and those who use it for that won't want to pay more for it to do it legally, it will drive an underground illegal operation further underground. Along with that you would require more stringent "policing" to ensure it does not come into the work place just as with alcohol. Difference with alcohol is that it is much easier to determine if someone is drunk.

And the Police are hard out on P as well.

It isn't addictive but it is habit forming, not chemically but mentally addictive. Legalising it is an argument to make it cheaper but does provide a taxation stream that allows the government to collect money to offset the costs it usage already cause, talk medical etc here not law enforcement, and yes it does cause cancer.
Part of the trouble with determining if it is in the work place is that it is illegal and therefore sompeople are reluctant to mention it.
As to P why can't we buy effective cold medicines when the precursors are actually important by the container load.

[Drew]

That won't work at all. It is an addictive recreational drug and those who use it for that won't want to pay more for it to do it legally, it will drive an underground illegal operation further underground. Along with that you would require more stringent "policing" to ensure it does not come into the work place just as with alcohol. Difference with alcohol is that it is much easier to determine if someone is drunk.

And the Police are hard out on P as well.

Oooohhhhh goody, it's way more fun to argue with you than agree. Hehehehe

How big an underground tobaco industry do people think we have here? It is illegal to grow that without proper authority, and Christ knows there would be a huge market for it!

Also, has anyone actually proven that pot is addictive? I thought the popular opinion was the contrary? I smoked a bit of it as a younger dude, but had no issue stopping. A mate smokes daily at the moment, but stops for the race season.

Legal crops and taxes fixes more problems than it creates in my opinion.

Oh yeah, the police force is not a profitable organisation Akzel, there is no way to weigh up it's worth via financial reasoning.

[imdying]

Oh yeah, the police force is not a profitable organisation Akzel, there is no way to weigh up it's worth via financial reasoning.

Sure you can, the government do that every year, they have to to set their budget.

[Drew]

Sure you can, the government do that every year, they have to to set their budget.

LOL, tuche.

[Edbear]

It isn't addictive but it is habit forming, not chemically but mentally addictive. Legalising it is an argument to make it cheaper but does provide a taxation stream that allows the government to collect money to offset the costs it usage already cause, talk medical etc here not law enforcement, and yes it does cause cancer.
Part of the trouble with determining if it is in the work place is that it is illegal and therefore sompeople are reluctant to mention it.
As to P why can't we buy effective cold medicines when the precursors are actually important by the container load.

Oooohhhhh goody, it's way more fun to argue with you than agree. Hehehehe

How big an underground tobaco industry do people think we have here? It is illegal to grow that without proper authority, and Christ knows there would be a huge market for it!

Also, has anyone actually proven that pot is addictive? I thought the popular opinion was the contrary? I smoked a bit of it as a younger dude, but had no issue stopping. A mate smokes daily at the moment, but stops for the race season.

Legal crops and taxes fixes more problems than it creates in my opinion.

Oh yeah, the police force is not a profitable organisation Akzel, there is no way to weigh up it's worth via financial reasoning.

There have been endless studies done over the years on this and while as with many substances they affect different people differently. (Some can quit smoking cold-turkey, others have a nightmare time of it). However if you do the research it is generally agreed that both nicotine and cannabis are chemically addictive substances, (along with many painkillers as I know all too well!)

An issue that legalising it would create is enforcement and monitoring, as being a drug that impairs the user, as with alcohol, it would have to become socially unnacceptable to be under the influence of it when in a public setting again, as with alcohol and drink driving, etc. It would be more of an issue than at present I believe.

Growing tobacco would be a minor issue nowadays as fewer and fewer are smoking, and it's not causing the mayhem that alcohol and drugs are, by a long shot. I would suspect that such would be a side issue for Police who may act if they come across it but not worth pursuing it generally.

[oneofsix]

There have been endless studies done over the years on this and while as with many substances they affect different people differently. (Some can quit smoking cold-turkey, others have a nightmare time of it). However if you do the research it is generally agreed that both nicotine and cannabis are chemically addictive substances, (along with many painkillers as I know all too well!)

An issue that legalising it would create is enforcement and monitoring, as being a drug that impairs the user, as with alcohol, it would have to become socially unnacceptable to be under the influence of it when in a public setting again, as with alcohol and drink driving, etc. It would be more of an issue than at present I believe.

Growing tobacco would be a minor issue nowadays as fewer and fewer are smoking, and it's not causing the mayhem that alcohol and drugs are, by a long shot. I would suspect that such would be a side issue for Police who may act if they come across it but not worth pursuing it generally.

Actually it is generally agreed nicotine is addictive but THC isn't, chemically speaking.
A couple of tobacco self growers were recently done for supplying.

[Edbear]

Actually it is generally agreed nicotine is addictive but THC isn't, chemically speaking.
A couple of tobacco self growers were recently done for supplying.

It's probably close either way, as with some other issues it is unclear if it's cause or effect. But certainly it is very much a mental issue regardless. Having had to beat a strong drug addiction to prescription painkillers I know how much of a nightmare it can be, both physically and mentally!

[oneofsix]

It's probably close either way, as with some other issues it is unclear if it's cause or effect. But certainly it is very much a mental issue regardless. Having had to beat a strong drug addiction to prescription painkillers I know how much of a nightmare it can be, both physically and mentally!

I don't agree with using cannabis but don't think the current way of handling it is correct and the history of how it got there is muddy. Like banning alcohol didn't work, deal with the individuals.

[SMOKEU]

That won't work at all. It is an addictive recreational drug and those who use it for that won't want to pay more for it to do it legally, it will drive an underground illegal operation further underground.

That must be why no one buys alcohol and every drinker in NZ drinks homebrew instead. Not.

It is illegal to grow that without proper authority

No it's not.

[Drew]

No it's not.

Had to think about that. You're right, it is legal to grow tobaco, but not to sell it.

[oneofsix]

The cost of enforcing the marijuana laws is too high, well I reckon someone in The Orleans County Sheriff's Department might be thinking that about now. They have 5 rather flat cars because a guy got pissed off about his possession charges.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/7407...es-police-cars

[Drew]

The cost of enforcing the marijuana laws is too high, well I reckon someone in The Orleans County Sheriff's Department might be thinking that about now. They have 5 rather flat cars because a guy got pissed off about his possession charges.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/7407...es-police-cars

Seven cars.

[oneofsix]

Seven cars.

True, 5 marked and 2 unmarked. Must have been the drugs man, that caffeine is a killer

[sidecar bob]

As you have stated on plenty of occasions ... you are not part of, nor wish to be part of ... "OUR" society. Therefore it is none of your business, what "OUR" police do with "OUR" taxpayers money.

If you claim that you have (reluctantly) paid anything in the way of a tax of any type to "OUR" Goverment .... that is the admission you ARE indeed part of "OUR" society. Thus subject to it's rules.

Mate, i fixed the problem. I put the gimp you quoted (who's quote i cant see, but im sure its braindead) & another couple of drug fucked morons on my ignore list a few weeks back, because frankly, they talk a load of bollocks.
"Dope, making dumbasses feel smart since ages ago"
Oh, & another side bonus, their red bling dosent show up on your page once you ignore them.