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    Quote Originally Posted by denill View Post
    Rea to MotoGP? Not likely methinks. (But - what do I know????????????)

    http://www.bikesportnews.com/news-de...re&newsid=7664
    The man that likes diving up the inside to take the gap - how many "Bautista's" could he do on Lorenzo in a year?
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    http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Aug/120802b.htm

    Still no idea if it is the 'right' move but , hey, it is probably the only thing that would prevent 2013 being a Lorenzo benefit.
    It's OK to disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.

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    The proposed Ducati Junior Team is off to a good start...

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    Quote Originally Posted by denill View Post
    http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Aug/120802b.htm

    Still no idea if it is the 'right' move but , hey, it is probably the only thing that would prevent 2013 being a Lorenzo benefit.
    I've been guessing 'Yamaha' since the Italian round Bill. He gave hints there to 2013 in his helmet design. (I haven't seen it mentioned in print though ).
    He's the type of guy who lets his riding do the talking. True enough the last two years haven't worked for him, but only a fool would write him off on a Yamaha and that's been said many times before.
    C'mon Vale, stick it to em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roogazza View Post
    He's the type of guy who lets his riding do the talking.


    C'mon Vale, stick it to em.
    Yeah. He's been pretty quiet then!

    I reckon Rossi will win some races when it comes to a gloves off scrap, as that's when he's at his best, and one of the very best ever. But I think Lorenzo will have more outright speed at most races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Yeah. He's been pretty quiet then!

    I reckon Rossi will win some races when it comes to a gloves off scrap, as that's when he's at his best, and one of the very best ever. But I think Lorenzo will have more outright speed at most races.
    I'd hate to see him 'Bomb' another year. No one likes to see a sportsman hang on too long and fade. Hope it works for him next year, whatever name is on the tank, huh ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roogazza View Post
    I'd hate to see him 'Bomb' another year. No one likes to see a sportsman hang on too long and fade. Hope it works for him next year, whatever name is on the tank, huh ?
    Me too. But I can't see it going too well for him if the badge is 'Ducati'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    He's like Colin Edwards used to be, the best of the rest.
    Dunno 'bout that. He's likeable enough but has never even won a race, and never really made it to the top echelons.

    As for Rossi on the yamaha? The Ducati has been excellent training as Stoner found out last year! Climb off that thing onto a decent bike and it'll be like walking in the park, lol.

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    The one thing Rossi can do is generate talk. There's been nothing like all the blathering over him changing back to Yamaha for a very long time. He'll be laughing all the way to the bank with his endorsement money from sponsors.

    There's going to be quite a few people looking stupid when Furusawa climbs onboard and Rossi resigns with Ducati.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    Dunno 'bout that. He's likeable enough but has never even won a race, and never really made it to the top echelons.
    He won in 2009 on the RC212V.

    He's never finished a MotoGP year lower than 6th (1x 3rd, 1x 4th, 2x 5th, 1x 6th). There's only 4 people that are what you call the top echelon and most people call them the Aliens. Outside those 4 his record is second to none, even Colin Edwards can't match that record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    The one thing Rossi can do is generate talk. There's been nothing like all the blathering over him changing back to Yamaha for a very long time. He'll be laughing all the way to the bank with his endorsement money from sponsors.

    There's going to be quite a few people looking stupid when Furusawa climbs onboard and Rossi resigns with Ducati.
    I want to agree, but it wasnt just fuji who made the m1..rather a whole team, with fuji,,calling the shots....I have experience of that....
    can he turn around the ducati, tough call, unless he can work around ducatis Inherient problem,and can sort out the electronics..I think we will see an easier to use ducati...which may result in more top tens..but xhampionship winning........atm im doubtful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d'marge View Post
    I want to agree, but it wasnt just fuji who made the m1..rather a whole team, with fuji,,calling the shots....I have experience of that....
    can he turn around the ducati, tough call, unless he can work around ducatis Inherient problem,and can sort out the electronics..I think we will see an easier to use ducati...which may result in more top tens..but xhampionship winning........atm im doubtful
    stephen
    Yes it was a team effort, but if the head of the team isn't doing the job the team won't produce the goods.

    The problems with the Ducati are all to do with the staff. The engine is the one thing that hasn't changed through each iteration of the bike and that won't change because Preziosi is first and foremost an engine designer. Until he decides the riders know better it won't change and the bike won't handle.

    Or someone else, ie Furusawa, takes over the reins. I reckon Audi can see that. They're very good at making the changes needed to get a company back on track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Yes it was a team effort, but if the head of the team isn't doing the job the team won't produce the goods.

    The problems with the Ducati are all to do with the staff. The engine is the one thing that hasn't changed through each iteration of the bike and that won't change because Preziosi is first and foremost an engine designer. Until he decides the riders know better it won't change and the bike won't handle.

    Or someone else, ie Furusawa, takes over the reins. I reckon Audi can see that. They're very good at making the changes needed to get a company back on track.
    True , but Fujisawa worked in a Japanese team and Japanese teams work differently to western ones , and he will only be a consultant .....If , P and F can work together ,,,and they can draft in a decent electronic guy ...maybe ,

    I mean it isnt looking that grim , they already have back tracked on the frame .......if they can give Rossi what he wants ( or had given Stoner). the story may have been different

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d'marge View Post
    I want to agree, but it wasnt just fuji who made the m1..rather a whole team, with fuji,,calling the shots....I have experience of that....
    Are you saying Furusawa is a mountain of a man?

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