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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    Good on ya foryour actions and starting the thread and discussion M.

    If MNZ had a web site that riders with a valid license could sign into using the true name and license number, a lot of little things like this could be better managed, but for now, as this place is FULL or registered racers, I guess it is the best place to get feed back on ideas from
    Perhaps there could be a sub-forum here created in which Registered racers only can log into? Why re-invent the wheel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speights_bud View Post
    Perhaps there could be a sub-forum here created in which Registered racers only can log into? Why re-invent the wheel?
    I don't hold an MNZ license but would like to think I have some experience around road racing to have a say as do many other people in the pits or between race bikes too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    I don't hold an MNZ license but would like to think I have some experience around road racing to have a say as do many other people in the pits or between race bikes too.
    Cool so perhaps just a MNZ related sub-forum? this would also allow our marshals etc to have their say on issues also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speights_bud View Post
    Perhaps there could be a sub-forum here created in which Registered racers only can log into? Why re-invent the wheel?
    Similar has been tried but did not work as people didn't go there...but the idea has merit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    I don't hold an MNZ license but would like to think I have some experience around road racing to have a say as do many other people in the pits or between race bikes too.
    No one listens to commentators anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggles08 View Post
    No one listens to commentators anyway
    Yeah they do Morris ya back biter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggles08 View Post
    Similar has been tried but did not work as people didn't go there...but the idea has merit.
    People use the Racing pat of the forum, putting it in there surely would at least make it the place to visit if someone was looking for stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speights_bud View Post
    Perhaps there could be a sub-forum here created in which Registered racers only can log into? Why re-invent the wheel?
    MNZ should outsource to kiwibiker, perhaps if the sub-forum were open to the public to view but you had to put your license number in your profile, or sign up (like L.O.A) to get contribution rights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave- View Post
    MNZ should outsource to kiwibiker, perhaps if the sub-forum were open to the public to view but you had to put your license number in your profile, or sign up (like L.O.A) to get contribution rights?



    Great idea! I think it should be required to have people signing in with the real name and or MNZ License also, why, to make all accountable for what they say and also to create a data of logic/comments from people.

    Marketing? It would also give an opportunity to promote your sponsors on this site in your signature with each post.

    It is so typical of riders to just complain but not do anything action wise to try and change potentually negative situations, this forum could/would give our road racing committee a general over site of what the riders/marshalls/fans want from the sport in the year 2012 and beyond, which in turn could allow to offer up preposed rule changes well in advance to get feed back on those proposals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    Great idea! I think it should be required to have people signing in with the real name and or MNZ License also, why, to make all accountable for what they say and also to create a data of logic/comments from people.

    Marketing? It would also give an opportunity to promote your sponsors on this site in your signature with each post.

    It is so typical of riders to just complain but not do anything action wise to try and change potentually negative situations, this forum could/would give our road racing committee a general over site of what the riders/marshalls/fans want from the sport in the year 2012 and beyond, which in turn could allow to offer up preposed rule changes well in advance to get feed back on those proposals.
    Or it could just be left as it is and when the members on here have agreed on a subject,It could be forwarded on to the roadrace commissioner for the commission to review,Be warned however,Just because the Kiwibiker website agrees on something or has a majority vote,Doesn't mean its going to get past the commission and then the board for ratification,BUT we are always ready to listen and to be honest,Making it a licence holders only forum just doesnt work for me,Ive seen some bloody good ideas on here from peeps that are not MNZ members and will not get listened to through the channels at MNZ,It also disqualifies too many ex competitors with mountains of knowledge.

    A good example is the discussion surrounding the incidents highlighted by the jellyman at Manfeild,I didn't contact Steve at Manfeild because of anything Choppa had to say,I just looked at his post and decided he was using it as an excuse for his mistake,I contacted Steve on the back of yours and Glen Williams comments as I knew you guys were removed from the immediate issue and were expressing your personal views AND on the face of that information I would be negligent not to atleast ask the question of the circuit owners.

    On that basis,Maybe its better not to reinvent the wheel,Rather,Give it a balance up and use it in a more positive manner like the jellyman was trying to do.

    Just my 2c

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    , which in turn could allow to offer up preposed rule changes well in advance to get feed back on those proposals.
    Right there is where your utopian idea goes tits up.

    Why would the comitee want to trawl through pages and pages of bulshit, to read the same opinion written fifty different ways, by largly barely literate egotisticle fuckin bike racers?

    Yes, discussion forum on a rule change is good, on this sort of scale it is a complete fuck up.

    Lets look at the most recent rule change that I can think of, the allowance of 400cc two strokes into F3. The comitee are perfactly aware that rules may need to be giggle a bit after some track time has occured, but the whinging bitching, self cetered masses that are bike racers, (you included Shaun, don't make dredge up the footage of you tossing your fuckin toys at Wanganui for not being allowed to cross enter into F1), would still be slinging shit and nothing would have happened.

    Let's dumb it down a bit shall we.

    Democracy is based, on the populace voting into power, a number of people who represent the ideals of said populace. We are meant to put ito power, someone for each group within the group. So on a much smaller scale, they can discuss and decide how things get run. When the masses stick their oar in on every little matter, nothing gets done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Or it could just be left as it is and when the members on here have agreed on a subject, Be warned however,Just because the kiwibiker website agrees on something or has a majority votec
    Hahahahahahahahaha, my point illustrated.

    Billy, you can promise to change every rule in the book as soon as the Kiwibiker community has agreed on the replacement. And never need a fuckin pen to write one.

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    All i was suggesting is a sub-forum where i (and others) could go 'Oh hey what MNZ/Rule related issues are currently being discussed? I'll go have a look in the MNZ area.'

    Not Intended as a 'formal tool' to be used by MNZ to make decisions/public notifications etc. But a place to discuss the opinions or riders and others.

    I don't see the harm though if our MNZ Rep's chose to post relevant information about actual changes etc.

    You can bitch among yourselves as much as you like on here but I would just like a place to categorize MNZ/Competition rules etc related discussion so everyone doesn't have to sort through the rest of the forum to find it.

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