Made in China

[Katman]

It's frightening that a country rightly considered a superpower is basing it's economy on flooding the international market with cheap crap directly copied from reputable brands, and even worse, producing counterfeit products and trying to pass them off as genuine articles.

Why the fuck are we kowtowing to the slimy pricks?

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's frightening that a country rightly considered a superpower is basing it's economy on flooding the international market with cheap crap directly copied from reputable brands, and even worse, producing counterfeit products and trying to pass them off as genuine articles.

Why the fuck are we kowtowing to the slimy pricks?

given they own all our debt, y'all better bend your knee to your Chinese overlords, serf.

[bogan]

Cos some arseholes think charging 60 bucks for a rod end that costs 6 bucks from china is a valid business model. It's a global marketplace, get better marketeers if you can't compete on prices.

[Katman]

Cos some arseholes think charging 60 bucks for a rod end that costs 6 bucks from china is a valid business model. It's a global marketplace, get better marketeers if you can't compete on prices.

So you're blinded solely by a cheap price?

That's worrying.

[bogan]

So you're blinded solely on cheap price?

That's worrying.

Why do you think the price was the only thing I compared? I judged the products to be of equal usefulnesses to my project, and one was 10% the price, bit of a no-brainer really.

[mashman]

Say it ain't so. Legitimate business people trying to maximise their profit by using inferior quality products irrespective of safety concerns... nooooo, it'll never catch on and legitimate business people wouldn't lie about the quality of their products would they? waaaaa ha ha ha haaaaaaa... it ain't really surprising. Fortunately the govt wouldn't fall for that kinda shit... the trains in Welly are great when they're working.

[Katman]

Why do you think the price was the only thing I compared? I judged the products to be of equal usefulnesses to my project, and one was 10% the price, bit of a no-brainer really.

You were the one who mentioned the word 'price'.

So if you had the choice between a known quality brand at $60 and a crap quality brand at $10, which would you choose?

[Howie]

Say it ain't so. Legitimate business people trying to maximise their profit by using inferior quality products irrespective of safety concerns... nooooo, it'll never catch on and legitimate business people wouldn't lie about the quality of their products would they? waaaaa ha ha ha haaaaaaa... it ain't really surprising. Fortunately the govt wouldn't fall for that kinda shit... the trains in Welly are great when they're working.

But the Trains in Wellington be Korean, The new Mainline Locomotives be Chinese.

[bogan]

You were the one who mentioned the word 'price'.

So if you had the choice between a known quality brand at $60 and a crap quality brand at $10, which would you choose?

Because price was the only product difference, when used in my application anyway, the cast surface finish wasn't as nice on the chinese one, but they are hidden.

Depends on the product and application, and branding difference, and price difference. I think you'll find a good number of us do actually do some brand research.

I guess the question us consumers ask, is how can chinese sell product for 1/6th the price we can buy locally?

[Subike]

Look at the origional brand name, and like it, price $6500
look at the chineese copy and think, that will do , price $4160
Only has to last a year....

thrash the shit out of it for six months. 7000k's, and only the horn has fallen off........ fuck thats $4100 well spent,

will still get at least $2000 trade in from the dealer as promised..........dang less than the deprecation on the Brand name one for the same time?????

[Katman]

I guess the question us consumers ask, is how can chinese sell product for 1/6th the price we can buy locally?

Because the quality is shit.

[Katman]

And once again, just to clarify........

I'm not talking about foreign companies who get their product made in China if it meets their quality control standards.

I'm talking about Chinese companies producing products that have zero quality control.

[bogan]

Because the quality is shit.

1) Quality is dependent on the purpose.
2) Its not actually that bad, they buy cheap raw materials, and don't do too much quality control, but in many cases the end result is much the same.

And I call bullshit on cheap materials and no QC leading to 1/6th the sales price. Their main advantage is selling direct to consumers from the manufacturers, or if not direct, through a low margin distributor. Unlike here when the final prices is what, 2x? 3x? 5x? the price it was bought from the manufacturer.

[FJRider]

I guess the question us consumers ask, is how can chinese sell product for 1/6th the price we can buy locally?

But we don't ask ... big business here in good ole NZ buy chinese. They have contracts ... they have assurances from the suppliers ... what could go wrong ... ???

Oh wait ...

[Katman]

Did nobody see the Close Up programme?

A whole batch of Chinese made aluminium ladders destined for Sweden, which were rejected by Sweden because they were made with wafer thin metal and clearly didn't carry the load that the Chinese claimed they would, ended up being imported into New Zealand.

Have we become so focused on 'cheap' that 'quality' doesn't even enter the equation these days?