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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    How hard can it be....

    I'll need to take the Guzzler for a test ride - you want us to come take a look see?
    I don't mind, if you don't. No pressure though, I have most of the basic tools required to open and inspect the bike if needed. Of course, it depends when you would like to come over and have a look.

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    Update:

    Me and Dad decided to have a look at the spark plug. So for the first time together we followed my Haynes manual and took the tank off the bike and then using a torque wrench we got the spark plug out. Dad wanted me to do most of the work since its my motorcycle, I found that doing what I just did was far more easier than I thought it was going to be (allot more easier than what the manual was making it out to be, and more too). From the looks of the spark plug and the amount of accumulated rust on it, I think it would be safe to say that it probably hadn't been changed since the motorcycle was manufactured considering its low mileage (less than 5000km).

    The spark plug looked dirty (black) and sooty (as shown in this picture - no, this is not the spark plug I removed from my motorcycle).

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    Me and Dad are going down to the nearest motorcycle shop tomorrow to get another spark plug and feeler gauge.
    We are also going to look into the electrics and the air filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotkebab View Post
    Me and Dad decided to have a look at the spark plug. So for the first time together we followed my Haynes manual and took the tank off the bike and then using a torque wrench we got the spark plug out.
    Sorry, but if your Dad suggested using a torque wrench to remove the spark plug then I'd suggest anything mechanical is likely to be beyond him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Sorry, but if your Dad suggested using a torque wrench to remove the spark plug then I'd suggest anything mechanical is likely to be beyond him.
    We also used a spark plug socket. My manual as well as various other sources said I could use a torque wrench for the job.
    According to wikipedia, a torque wrench is usually in the form of a socket wrench with special internal mechanisms. It got the job done, why, is it a problem?
    And no, my father nor I are mechanics nor have experience with mechanics, we are learning together.

    On that note, My dad is very experienced with electronics and general DIY, though mind you if he suggests something that screws up the motorcycle he can pay for it to get it fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotkebab View Post
    We also used a spark plug socket.
    Well that's something.

    At least you didn't use a screwdriver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotkebab View Post
    We also used a spark plug socket. My manual as well as various other sources said I could use a torque wrench for the job.
    According to wikipedia, a torque wrench is usually in the form of a socket wrench with special internal mechanisms. It got the job done, why, is it a problem?
    And no, my father nor I are mechanics nor have experience with mechanics, we are learning together.

    On that note, My dad is very experienced with electronics and general DIY, though mind you if he suggests something that screws up the motorcycle he can pay for it to get it fixed.
    Torque wrench is intended to provide a correct tightening torque for threaded fasteners. Loosening fasteners is not its intended purpose, but it doesn't really make much difference. Someone is suggesting that your use of the torque wrench to remove the spark plug indicates a lack of mechanical nous (which you readily admit to, anyway)
    Katman is a bit like that (Superior to everyone else) - don;t worry about it.
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Sorry, but if your Dad suggested using a torque wrench to remove the spark plug then I'd suggest anything mechanical is likely to be beyond him.

    But at lest they are giving it a go TS's are a very simple but robust little motor and will handle a "amateur" approach

    I learnt how to adjust brakes, change plugs replace sprockets put on new chain's on a TS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhys View Post
    But at lest they are giving it a go TS's are a very simple but robust little motor and will handle a "amateur" approach
    Yes, I've seen many results of the clueless 'giving it a go'.

    Usually it's not pretty.

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    Plus 1 for a TS to learn on , you have to be pretty ham fisted to fuck one up, just don't over tighten any bolts as they easily strip or snap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Torque wrench is intended to provide a correct tightening torque for threaded fasteners. Loosening fasteners is not its intended purpose, but it doesn't really make much difference. Someone is suggesting that your use of the torque wrench to remove the spark plug indicates a lack of mechanical nous (which you readily admit to, anyway)
    Katman is a bit like that (Superior to everyone else) - don;t worry about it.
    Well, my dad actually just corrected me. The tool I used (which I thought was a toque wrench) turned out not to be a torque wrench, but a socket wrench with a spark plug socket.
    My dad also explained to me what a torque wrench was and what it is used for (and he pretty much quoted what you just said).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Well that's something.

    At least you didn't use a screwdriver.
    Why would I use a screwdriver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Yes, I've seen many results of the clueless 'giving it a go'.

    Usually it's not pretty.
    Gotta start somewhere and learn, but of course you were hatched knowing everything being the god you believe yourself to be.

    Good on the OP trying to learn and asking questions, shame some of the answers are a bit warped
    Its not the destination that is important its the journey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMemonic View Post
    Gotta start somewhere and learn, but of course you were hatched knowing everything being the god you believe yourself to be.

    Good on the OP trying to learn and asking questions, shame some of the answers are a bit warped
    Thanks

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    As said, if you have spark you can forget the CDI, and I'm pretty sure the ignition timing can't fall out of whack on 'em.
    As for the headlight, check for any inline fuses on the +12v side of the battery
    Power to the headlight is the yellow/red wire from the magneto/stator, so it's not going to work without the engine running AFAIK

    Hopefully it's just the plug though (which is going to make me ride in to Langlands and burn it down)
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Update: Me and Dad went up to Masterton and we picked up a new spark plug and a feeler gauge from Lins Auto. Though we forgot to get some anti seize, my manual recommends that I get a graphite grease to cover the threads with. I'm not entirely sure where I can pick it up from (me and dad are going to try the local motorcycle stores), but just in case, does anyone know what are some good brands of anti seize available that would be suitable for my motorcycle?

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