Pest Free NZ - radio national

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'll tell ya another...go back to the old days where the gubbermint would provide you with .22 ammo based on how many pests you killed and you could also sell the skins. I don't really know enough about 1080 to make an educated comment.

Imagine the carnage that'd create now though. At least back then...people were safe with firenarms on the whole!

[Crasherfromwayback]

From the site you are quoting.

http://www.1080facts.co.nz/another-view-on-1080

most is opinion but that first paragraph.

Thought it looked like some facts actually.

[nodrog:Me]

what sort of motorcycles do they ride?

[SMOKEU]

ha.. have you actually read a paper copy of mein kampf? u get em in english.. but better in Deutsch

I haven't yet, but it's on my to do list. I've got an ebook copy of it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

But then I know you have read the wiki page so you know all about 1080.
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Read a few things over the years on the subject, and talked with a lot of people on both sides of the fence over the years.

But I still want you to show me, cold hard facts that 1080 kills more native species than it saves. And that's not even taking the native bush the fuckers kill into account. Numbers please? Then you can tell me how you're going to control NZ's possum population. Because NZ's best can only come up with the continued usage of 1080.

[Crasherfromwayback]

In 1974 I read that there were 7 million possums in NZ.
Last year I read that there are 7 million possums in NZ.
Doesn't seem to me that it's working that good.
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Rocket science eh. Would do you think would've happened if those 7 million possums weren't controlled with 1080?

How many do you think there'd be now Einstein?

[Hitcher]

if 1080 is so fuckin good, why are we one of the only OECD countries that use it? and why have we been using it for fifty bloody years, if it's so fuckin good?

Few other countries in the world have pest mammals to the extent that New Zealand does, that's why we use it. Not to mention it being non-cumulative or residual in the environment. The only people who oppose its use are people who like roaming around with guns and killing mammals, and people who can't control their dogs in areas where 1080 has been applied.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Few other countries in the world have pest mammals to the extent that New Zealand does, that's why we use it. Not to mention it being non-cumulative or residual in the environment. The only people who oppose its use are people who like roaming around with guns and killing mammals, and people who can't control their dogs in areas where 1080 has been applied.

Yeah I've mentioned that a few times, but thy don't seem to want to know about that. Most of them, in my experience, are the type of people that are anti immunisation as well. Maybe that's why they harp on about birds so much. They're emus.

I've yet to see a single 'anti 1080' person give us a better way to control the pests 1080 kills though.

[BoristheBiter]

Yeah I've mentioned that a few times, but thy don't seem to want to know about that. Most of them, in my experience, are the type of people that are anti immunisation as well. Maybe that's why they harp on about birds so much. They're emus.

I've yet to see a single 'anti 1080' person give us a better way to control the pests 1080 kills though.

No what you are after is a cheaper option.

The best option is to ground bait but as this is more costly it isn't even looked at.

Why is it that all pro 1080 people never go into the bush?

[Akzle]

NZ, globally, is the ONLY landmass with no endemic mamalia.

Cool story.

The fact that i like walking round town and country with guns on is irrelevant.

THERE ARE BETTER WAYS, THEY REQUIRE AN EN MASSE MENTALITY SHIFT.
Don't jump on his coattails crasher, he's far more succint than you've been.

The boosh has maximum holding numbers for any given species. 7million might be about it fer coons. They wont just breed incessantly. That's a human trick. All other animals STOP FUCKING when the food supply gets thin.
Two thing that grow for growths sake: humans, and cancer.
Go figure.

[scumdog]

The boosh has maximum holding numbers for any given species. 7million might be about it fer coons. They wont just breed incessantly. That's a human trick. All other animals STOP FUCKING when the food supply gets thin.
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And some species die out due to lack of suitable environment caused by over-population of another species...possums are late arrivals and using up existing species of plant and animals.

And I have been told NZ bats were here before any humans, hence are 'native mammals'...but then what do I know??

[Crasherfromwayback]

No what you are after is a cheaper option.

The best option is to ground bait but as this is more costly it isn't even looked at.

Why is it that all pro 1080 people never go into the bush?

No. Simply one the country can actually AFFORD to do whilst still controlling the pest population.

And into the bush? I used to tramp and hunt quite a bit until I mashed my ankle. Can't speak for others here though.

[Akzle]

NZ bats were here before any humans, hence are 'native mammals'...but then what do I know??

what you know?
not a lot. Yank.

But yes. I stand corrected. 2 species of native bat.

You're such a fucking marsupial.

[Crasherfromwayback]

[ Don't jump on his coattails crasher, he's far more succint than you've been.

It's got nothing at all to do with coattails. More about the fact that none of you guys have answered some really simple questions I've asked you with facts.

And stop trying to use words you don't even know how to correctly spell to sound intelligent. It'll always backfire.

[Akzle]

...none of you guys have answered some really simple questions I've asked you with facts.

And stop trying to use words you don't even know how to correctly spell to sound intelligent. It'll always backfire.

oh gfy.
I'm operating on my phone just now. One fuken typo.
To be clear, what questions? And definitely what facts?
I thought we had you fairly well covered.