Interesting how the Yanks see NZ

**Drew** · 9th August 2012, 20:10

Bigots, funny thing that. What would be the word for slamming an entire nation of people, based mostly on second hand information do ya reckon?

**scumdog** · 9th August 2012, 20:41

Originally Posted by wharfy

All the Americans I have ever actually met have been warm, generous friendly people (and with a sense of humor) Kiwi's may be one of the "most traveled" people on the planet but that doesn't stop a hell of a lot of them from being ignorant, bigoted - um.... pricks really.

Kinda sums up my experiences and thoughts...

**wharfy** · 9th August 2012, 20:48

Originally Posted by Drew

Bigots, funny thing that. What would be the word for slamming an entire nation of people, based mostly on second hand information do ya reckon?

Ignorant/bigot/prick any of those would do, or you could use a thesaurus and look up plenty of others. I think for journalists the term "hack" is used to describe one who doesn't do their homework.

I'm sometimes bigoted - but only when I know I'm right.

**GD66** · 9th August 2012, 22:14

Originally Posted by Billy

Also the machine belonged to one Joe Lett as I recall,Possibly an ex Geoff Perry machine but all the same,Was running on mentanol and I believe from what I was told on the day,The machine had also jammed on full throttle as the slides which were chromeplated brass had frozen in the aluminium carb bodies,The reason methanol was banned from use in 2 strokes here from that point on,One of the peeps who was trying to help them out was,John Alnutt,Geoff Perrys mechanic and brother in law/

Definitely a seizure Billy, as soon as he rolled the throttle off to tip it in the back end locked up and stepped out.
Jon Allnatt was Geoff's mechanic but Geoff's brother-in-law was Alan Franklin, who was married to sister Dale.

**pete376403** · 9th August 2012, 22:40

Originally Posted by Grumph

As Billy and others have pointed out the writer of that article has not done his research properly - even the phrase about an obscure little racetrack etc is actually a misquote.
Cycle magazine I'm pretty sure described it as an obscene little racetrack - I remember reading that when it came out and thinking, well, they got that right....

What seems to have been forgotten is that we lost Neville too...which was IMO a far bigger blow for NZ than losing Rayborn was for the US.

Thats how I remember the Cycle mag article as well.

(I had about 10-15 years - from the 1969 Buyers Guide special onward- of Cycles in a box in the attic - gave them away. One of a fairly long list of things I regret doing)

**Crasherfromwayback** · 10th August 2012, 09:06

Originally Posted by Bald Eagle

The Yanks have given us;
The Atomic Bomb
Harley Davidsons
Global economic crisis ..
Law suits for everything
Contents may hot labels on coffee cups...

I think I can live without them.

They also saved our sorry arses a wee while ago.

**SPman** · 10th August 2012, 17:08

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

They also saved our sorry arses a wee while ago.

Quite a wee while ago......
Nothing wrong with most Yank's, althoughwe found it interesting how they can be so similar to us, yet completely different at the same time - it's just their Administration and Government that sucks big time!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 10th August 2012, 17:15

Originally Posted by SPman

Quite a wee while ago......
Nothing wrong with most Yank's, althoughwe found it interesting how they can be so similar to us, yet completely different at the same time - it's just their Administration and Government that sucks big time!

Indeed. Doesn't lesson the good of it though.

I've always found Americans to be some of the most honest, warmest, funniest and most open people you could hope to meet. Absolutely loved my time there, and can't wait to go back.

**The Lone Rider** · 10th August 2012, 17:49

Originally Posted by avgas

"NZ you say. So this Euro crisis would be hitting you guys pretty hard then."
Was what one merikan said to me while I was there.

I had to kindly point out to him that we are in the other Hemisphere.
"Oh ok, sorry about that. So do you guys speak Spanish then?"

Other than general ignorance than I will admit of my compatriots, it is also the case we simply don't give a fuck where places like NZ are. Unless we have to live here.

Speaking from the heart.

**Bald Eagle** · 10th August 2012, 18:00

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

They also saved our sorry arses a wee while ago.

Then sent the bill which wasn't paid off till 2006.

http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2006/...-off-wwii-debt
Britain will today make the last repayment on loans lent by the US and Canada during the second world war - 61 years ago.

**merv** · 10th August 2012, 18:01

We talked about this a few years ago here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/1522-Remembering-Cal-Rayborn? Similar insights.

Also Soup has a story on Geoff Perry which we talked about here a while back http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/16569-Nice-to-see-the-Yanks-remembering-Geoff-Perry?

**jellywrestler** · 11th August 2012, 09:22

quote "To this day stories are repeated about parts from Perry's bike being used on the motorcycle that Pat Hennen crashed at the Isle of Man, which is said to be the same bike Cal Rayborn was killed on in New Zealand."

perry Died in the early 70's never having ridden an RG500 square four, only the twins TR500 (73?) and Hennen was riding an RG factory bike at the TT on the other side of the world why on earth would anyone link the two????
just goes to show how fucked up some peoples reporting is!

**Road kill** · 11th August 2012, 10:49

Originally Posted by wharfy

But they did give us Hamburgers, the internet, Bourbon and the Ford V8

All the Americans I have ever actually met have been warm, generous friendly people (and with a sense of humor) Kiwi's may be one of the "most traveled" people on the planet but that doesn't stop a hell of a lot of them from being ignorant, bigoted - um.... pricks really.

Yeah,second that word for word.
Ok,,apart from that Ford bit.....Mopar for life brother