Legal advice wanted - Traffic offence

[Drew]

I wonder if this defence would work. "I was not careless your honour. I did it on purpose with much care and due attention".

[Jantar]

I must admit that anytime I'm on only one wheel I am very careful and paying a lot of attention. Don't know that I'd want to say that to a judge though.

[Drew]

I must admit that anytime I'm on only one wheel I am very careful and paying a lot of attention. Don't know that I'd want to say that to a judge though.

If they get me after witnessing me do a wheelie, it'd depend on what they charged me with.

[rastuscat]

I wonder if this defence would work. "I was not careless your honour. I did it on purpose with much care and due attention".

Erm........suggest against that........it establishes men's rea...........

[Akzle]

Erm........suggest against that........it establishes men's rea...........

please tell me that was an apostrophe pisstake. you can't even blame hunt on this one.

if you're not PLEADING GUILTY, you do not have a GUILTY MIND. if you are stating you believed you had a CLAIM OF RIGHT to do it... you'd be legally entitled to...

[FJRider]

I must admit that anytime I'm on only one wheel I am very careful and paying a lot of attention. Don't know that I'd want to say that to a judge though.

I must admit ... if I'm on one wheel, one of the buggers must have fallen off.

[Jantar]

I must admit ... if I'm on one wheel, one of the buggers must have fallen off.

And with your bike that is highly likely.

[Drew]

Erm........suggest against that........it establishes men's rea...........

Kind of, but to charge other than careless I would think.

Bit hard really, I don't fully understand the legal system. Does that double jeopardy thing only apply to all charges?

[Drew]

I must admit ... if I'm on one wheel, one of the buggers must have fallen off.

And with your bike that is highly likely.

I've wheelied my business partners FJ, they're just a little bit porky so ya need to be gentle on teh landing.

[FJRider]

And with your bike that is highly likely.

I'm more likely to fall off ... than a wheel. I have super strength duct tape holding the nut on.

I'm glad you saw the light and sold the pink suzuki ... and bought a blue one ...

[FJRider]

I've wheelied my business partners FJ, they're just a little bit porky so ya need to be gentle on teh landing.

I never said it was impossible ... or even difficult. My personal preference is to keep both wheels in contact with the tarmac.

I've been known to have both wheels not in contact with the road.

[Drew]

I never said it was impossible ... or even difficult. My personal preference is to keep both wheels in contact with the tarmac.

I've been known to have both wheels not in contact with the road.

Me too....

[Clockwork]

Erm........suggest against that........it establishes men's rea...........

Sure but it doesn't prove guilt. I ask you, where in the road rules does it say you can't ride on one wheel? Are all unicyclists Careless users?

Surely the point is the charge is "careless use". But a wheelie of itself is not necessarily careless. Oddly enough, speeding because you don't know the speed limit or you are unaware of your speed would be careless.

[RUSS]

Sure but it doesn't prove guilt. I ask you, where in the road rules does it say you can't ride on one wheel? Are all unicyclists Careless users?

Surely the point is the charge is "careless use". But a wheelie of itself is not necessarily careless. Oddly enough, speeding because you don't know the speed limit or you are unaware of your speed would be careless.

Careless is the name of the charge, but like a lot of charges you can't just take the word "careless" as the be all and end all. e.g. the charge of wilful damage. You might think by the title that to be convicted of the charge you would have to deliberately damaged property yes? No, because if you read on it includes damaging by being reckless, no intention needed.

And yes you could argue speeding is careless use, as are most every other ticket you can get. We have careless because you can't have a ticket for everything, people will just think up some new dumb thing to do with a vehicle. Like now using a cell phone will get you an 80 instant fine, but previously it would be careless driving or nothing. Like there is no rule specifically saying you can't ride through heavy traffic sitting on the bars facing the wrong way while rolling a cigarette, but it's careless driving.

[DEATH_INC.]

Like there is no rule specifically saying you can't ride through heavy traffic sitting on the bars facing the wrong way while rolling a cigarette, but it's careless driving.

Bugger, better stop doing that then....

I thought that wheelies are covered under the new 'sustained loss of traction' law?