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    Quote Originally Posted by short-circuit View Post
    Not necessarily. There's this concept, its called tolerance. Suck it up.
    But why? -Serious question.Why should the public have to be tolerant?They are paying person A's wages.
    If they don't like it most won't "suck it up" about 5% will complain there and then ,The rest just won't come back. And worse will tell their freinds about this gang type person....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    But why? -Serious question.Why should the public have to be tolerant?They are paying person A's wages.
    If they don't like it most won't "suck it up" about 5% will complain there and then ,The rest just won't come back. And worse will tell their freinds about this gang type person....
    And a racist will boycott a business that employs someone ethnically different? And Edbear will forgo air travel to avoid trolly dollies?

    "Sorry I can no longer employ you on the basis that 3% of our customer base are naive fogies who might believe you to be a gangster....and may be sufficiently irked by their assumption that they may not come back.....despite the fact that you more than met their expectations in a professional sense"

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    Quote Originally Posted by short-circuit View Post
    And a racist will boycott a business that employs someone ethnically different? And Edbear will forgo air travel to avoid trolly dollies?
    That is their right to do so ... if they choose ... and the racist will get away with it ... with no punishment whatsoever if they say nothing about it.
    Edbear is also legally allowed to avoid anybody he chooses to avoid ...

    Quote Originally Posted by short-circuit View Post
    "Sorry I can no longer employ you on the basis that 3% of our customer base are naive fogies who might believe you to be a gangster....and may be sufficiently irked by their assumption that they may not come back.....despite the fact that you more than met their expectations in a professional sense"
    It ... generally speaking ... hinges on that last sentence ... with a big IF at the start.

    But if that 3% customer base provides 15% of their income ... ??? does the employer not have the "right" to decide ... ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by short-circuit View Post
    And a racist will boycott a business that employs someone ethnically different? And Edbear will forgo air travel to avoid trolly dollies?

    "Sorry I can no longer employ you on the basis that 3% of our customer base are naive fogies who might believe you to be a gangster....and may be sufficiently irked by their assumption that they may not come back.....despite the fact that you more than met their expectations in a professional sense"
    Would you wear a suit to court?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    That is their right to do so ... if they choose ... and the racist will get away with it ... with no punishment whatsoever if they say nothing about it.
    Edbear is also legally allowed to avoid anybody he chooses to avoid ...
    No argument. I'm just suggesting that generally if customers get want they want generally they won't give a fuck who the messenger is


    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    But if that 3% customer base provides 15% of their income ... ??? does the employer not have the "right" to decide ... ???
    Not in the case of the two examples I provided above. They would likely face an investigation by the human rights commission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    Would you wear a suit to court?
    What's your point? Having a tattoo in the workplace (which by the way may not involve serving the public) is not necessarily going to hold consequences for anyone.

    Those who take offense at tattoos can choose to take offense or they can accept other people's choices and get on with their own business.

    If I was that badly affected by the sight of tattoos I would consider going to live in Japan

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    Quote Originally Posted by short-circuit View Post
    Not in the case of the two examples I provided above. They would likely face an investigation by the human rights commission.
    If your two "examples" said nothing ... as to why they made their decisions ... it would be difficult to prove ... by reputation alone.

    Voting with their feet is always a customers "right". Not just a choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    If your two "examples" said nothing ... as to why they made their decisions ... it would be difficult to prove ... by reputation alone.

    Voting with their feet is always a customers "right". Not just a choice.


    The two examples I provided pertained to the employer discriminating on the basis of race and sexual orientation


    As far as customers (assuming the workplace in question is even a customer focussed one), I think it is highly doubtful that customers in todays world would boycott a business purely because of a tattoo. I would suspect that the number who chose to be sufficiently outraged would be negligible.

    Even more so depending on context - small shamrock on an Irish girls wrist vs swastika on the neck










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    Quote Originally Posted by short-circuit View Post
    The two examples I provided pertained to the employer discriminating on the basis of race and sexual orientation
    The topic of this thread (getting back on topic) is the one issue of a tattoo and it's employment connotations ... not race or sexual orientation.

    And unless you are suggesting tattoo's are included in those connotations ... it is YOU that is disciminating ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by short-circuit View Post
    What's your point?
    That you shouldn't be judged by how you look, but reality is that people do judge you by how you look.

    And employers know that.

    It aint brain science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    That you shouldn't be judged by how you look, but reality is that people do judge you by how you look.

    And employers know that.

    It aint brain science.
    Please continue your train of argument and tell me about the consequences of such judgement in relation to courtroom defendent vs. said worker.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    That you shouldn't be judged by how you look, but reality is that people do judge you by how you look.

    And employers know that.

    It aint brain science.
    You see my wife was a chef with a full sleeve and is now a teacher with a full sleeve (so far so good)

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    Quote Originally Posted by short-circuit View Post
    You see my wife was a chef with a full sleeve and is now a teacher with a full sleeve (so far so good)
    Cooking the books now ... ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Cooking the books now ... ???
    Good one. Don't worry, she knows her place in the home

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    Quote Originally Posted by short-circuit View Post
    Good one. Don't worry, she knows her place in the home
    She would do ... obviously has the brains in the family
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