Fuck Apple

[GrayWolf]

I guess geeks attracted geeks back then . From what I remember Billy boy dumped OS2 and went the way of the windows... didn't know there was any selling involved, but I missed the first half of the doco. Shame as it looked quite interesting with the Disney shennanigans and vision he showed. Heh, good question. The down side is that if I write any software, whoever I'm working for at the time has rights to take if off me. So I build my own tools in between jobs... less and less these days.

Sorry different 'use' of language, 'selling' as in selling a concept to someone, BG if you like was in the right place, at the right time, withDOS/Windows 3.11 to 'sell' the idea to be bundled with new computers.. the rest is history.

[James Deuce]

IBM prevented Microsoft from marketing OS/2 in a bizarre series of threatened legal actions that didn't go anywhere, but left a sour taste for a lot of people involved. Far from stealing OS/2 Bill wanted to market it concurrently with IBM and look at developing a Hardware/OS link. IBM senior management fair shit themselves at the thought of developing the small-office file server line into something bigger than their Mainframe and Mini business. Much like they did with the AT/XT PC line, they actively sabotaged the OS/2 tie-up with Microsoft.

It was a tragedy at the time as OS/2 was vastly superior to anything else out there. Server 2008 is almost there but the file permissions model is as flawed as every Microsoft server product has ever been.

[Usarka]

On a related note, I was going to buy tomatoes today, but they were much to expensive. I do not care for the high prices at all.

They aint in season, of course they expensive.

http://www.healthyfood.co.nz/sites/d...n-c-0306_0.pdf

Apples are in season all year round.

[ducatilover]

They aint in season, of course they expensive.

http://www.healthyfood.co.nz/sites/d...n-c-0306_0.pdf

Apples are in season all year round.

I don't understand, this is an informative post on KB?

I just wanted to bitch about tomato prices, then you went and got logical and burst my bubble.

[Swoop]

I would hate to save a little bit of money but have to use products that don't do everything I need perfectly and effortlessly.

You are definately not describing apple products then. Mine are sworn at regularly for deleting things it decides I do not desire.

Fuck apple and may steve jobbies fester.

Thank fuck for other alternatives to the iDiotic iNbred shit they pump out.

[SMOKEU]

If you absolutely must have a *nix OS as your host then you might as well run your favourite flavour of Linux. Why pay 3 times as much for a similar performing system?

[mashman]

If you absolutely must have a *nix OS as your host then you might as well run your favourite flavour of Linux. Why pay 3 times as much for a similar performing system?

2 words, 4 syllables... brainwashed fanboys

[onearmedbandit]

PS3 vs Xbox
Mac vs PC
Iphone vs Android
Afterlife vs Nothingness

It never fails to crack me up how people feel the need to try to convert others to 'their' way because of such and such reason that they believe everyone must know about and if they don't agree they are 'brainwashed' and ignorant.

Give it up guys, people are different, their needs are different, their wants and desires are different. And thank fuck for that. Be a boring old place if we only had one choice in everything.

[mashman]

PS3 vs Xbox
Mac vs PC
Iphone vs Android
Afterlife vs Nothingness

It never fails to crack me up how people feel the need to try to convert others to 'their' way because of such and such reason that they believe everyone must know about and if they don't agree they are 'brainwashed' and ignorant.

Give it up guys, people are different, their needs are different, their wants and desires are different. And thank fuck for that. Be a boring old place if we only had one choice in everything.

Brand loyalty or choice? Brainwashed.

[ducatilover]

Give it up guys, people are different, their needs are different, their wants and desires are different. And thank fuck for that. Be a boring old place if we only had one choice in everything.

What 'e sed.
If we were all the same we'd all be riding K5 Gixxer thous (leave them to me ya wankers)

[gijoe1313]

I think people need to find some good will, even if they have to hunt for it! "How'd you like 'em apples!?"

[pete376403]

I won an iPad 2. It's cool. Makes my 1 hour 20 minute train ride thoroughly bearable. Games, Music, TV Shows, Podcasts, actual work for goodness sake - It's just like the tablet Jean-Luc Picard had on the Enterpris in STNG.

It's soooo cool.

Sorry, what was the issue again?

Ther's a scene in "2001 Space Odyssey" where an IBM "Telepad" is used. This dates from 1968

[avgas]

I guess geeks attracted geeks back then . From what I remember Billy boy dumped OS2 and went the way of the windows... didn't know there was any selling involved, but I missed the first half of the doco. Shame as it looked quite interesting with the Disney shennanigans and vision he showed. Heh, good question. The down side is that if I write any software, whoever I'm working for at the time has rights to take if off me. So I build my own tools in between jobs... less and less these days.

Yup was the same Doco'... scary how they were all 'intergrated' back then,,, all B gates did was take the GUi and with some modifying, gave us Windows for workgroups then simply 'sold' it to IBM and other PC manufacturers... so in the end WHO really owns these GUi's and software?.......yeh just like that was 'copied' off Xerox and IBM. The only thing theydidnt to was get 'hooked' up with the PC manufactureres like Bill did, funny thing I watched a doco on the founder of apple, and he was close friends with Bill Gates at the start...all a bit incestuous really,

IBM and Xerox got everything they deserved. IBM set up a team to create the AT and XT PCs and then simply couldn't think of any application for it and disbanded the engineering team who created it and fed them into other projects. The pairing of a CPU and a math co-processor was a little bit of genius that went unremarked upon by IBM's management.

Xerox again, had no concept of what could be achieved with a mouse and a point and click GUI and dismissed that project as a dead-end. There are plenty of incidences of IP theft that are far more heinous than the Apple/Microsoft example, Edison's brutal personal handling of Tesla for instance.

I can probably fill in a few of the blanks here.
EVERYTHING ties back to 3 companies.
HP, IBM and Xerox. Apple, Microsoft.........I mean lets not forget that before it was called "Silicon Valley" it was - Palo Alto home base to "the big three".

Jobs/Gates/Woz - were all working together in building something impressive. After having worked for others and found it fucking boring and limiting. The Apple I was released, and while it was a pile of shit (wood case, hand soldiering etc).....it was a cheap pile of shit and came in well below what others were producing.
The ideas were stolen DIRECTLY from HP, IBM and Xerox.
But at the time the "big three" thought of Apple as a "cute little company". And besides they weren't using any of the stuff anyway. At the time HP, IBM and Xerox had literary 1000's of concepts being developed. Of which only about 2% made it to production. They had big fat government contracts to develop new things, not to mention company based sales.........and never really looked for a consumer market.

During the time with Apple in the early stages, Bill suddenly realized that his products that he was developing could be used for any personal computer platform. So he established "Microsoft" and patented his goodies, thus pissing off Apple. This was calmed by the fact that Bill giving free software with the newly developed Apple II.
After the Apple II was 6 months old, Bill sent a pricelist for new software to Steve...........who spat the dummy. Claimed he would not EVER buy Bills software.

Bill then created "Microsoft Windows", which basically ran a system that looked like what Bill was developing for Apple before Steve spat the dummy. IBM got OS2 purely because it was their IP to start with and they were going to screw Bill if he didn't do something for them.
So really they were screwing HP, Xerox and IBM well before they started screwing each other over.

Both Bill and Steve were very smart men who got very powerful at very young ages. It took them a while to grow up. In Apples case it took them a long time to actually make stuff that sells.
Xerox is the biggest loser out of the lot. Something like 1/3 of the worlds patents have 2 degrees of separation to Xerox....but they don't get a dime. Even NASA screwed Xerox and HP by stealing a big chunk of their engineers in the 50's/60's/70's.

[Swoop]

Ther's a scene in "2001 Space Odyssey" where an IBM "Telepad" is used. This dates from 1968

FFS don't tell apple, they will send their lawyers around and claim intellectual ownership of that system and sue the movie company for nicking their ideas.

[avgas]

FFS don't tell apple, they will send their lawyers around and claim intellectual ownership of that system and sue the movie company for nicking their ideas.

Samsung already tried that.
Samsung claimed that:
a) 2001 Oddessy
b) Startrek
c) Starwars
Were all inspirational to tablet design in the future.

It was all thrown out in court. Interestingly enough - Apple has NEVER sued Google, in an American court in regards to its Galaxy Nexus. So that just shows the level of BS Apple is dealing. This isn't IP - this is simply Apple trying to claim money out of Samsung the same way that Microsoft has out of anything that Apple or Android sell.