Welfare support and drug testing

[avgas]

And yet you won't offer them the rope with which to hang themselves, despite the fact that that's what it takes to become a fully functioning member of this society. Put the Rand down man, step into the light

Rope, bullets, poison. Whatever they prefer. Sharing is caring.

[avgas]

Hope all you like mate methinks its for nought.This past week a 7 year old made 34 111 calls,towards the end of peoples patience the guy on the Fire end said "if you ring back a policemans coming round to your house" he replied "dont care dads got a gun with his weed so well shoot you dead'.Dads probably not to pleased though.

Sounds like not enough Jandal.

[Usarka]

Sounds like not enough Jandal.

Too much stash, not enough bash.

[Akzle]

I guess there will be more than one policeman then and those will be in black clothes and wearing body armour.

nono. he said GUN with his WEED. not "fat germanian in control of webhosting"

[wharekura]

An update...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10829975

[oneofsix]

nono. he said GUN with his WEED. not "fat germanian in control of webhosting"

yeah, guns and body armour for weed, helicopters and anti-terrorist squad for obese web hosting nerds.

[oneofsix]

An update...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10829975

What a lot of inexact language. Makes it all sounds reasonable and get tough except all of lazy pricks that don't want work will automatically be defined as addicts and in need of exact tax payer help and those really trying will be penalised for eating sesame seed rolls and not having the right tribal connections.
Does really sound like a lose lose for the tax payer and job hunter but will appeal to the self righteous.

[blue rider]

 Mrs Bennett said there was 100 per cent drug testing on anyone working on the Christchurch rebuild.

She said the Ministry of Social Development spent $130 million on addiction programmes.

"We do think we can get help for those that need it,'' she said.

Some people on prescribed medicine will be exempt and people with addiction will be supported with their dependency.

Because a drug addict could get help in today's system if he/she wanted too.....Yeah sure Tui.

But if the drugs are prescribed you are exempt, so no problem if one has got a thing for hillbilly heroin.....it comes on a prescription.


What about fucking job creation to take care of those that actually would like to work! I guess that's in the too hard basket.

[Akzle]

...so no problem if one has got a thing for hillbilly heroin.....it comes on a prescription.

heroin will show up the same as morphine or codeine. being that it's all the same drug. (thanks US occupation of afghanistan)
you could of course supplement your pinging habit with a codeine prescription, quite easily obtained from a non-bent quack, for that severe pain you have. i have a stash of 30mg tabs for just such occasions.

but yes. once you've been prescribed the amphetamine for your ADHD you'll be free and clear to smoke P. and of course your sick horse needs the ketamine, you must have had some on your hands when you sat down for lunch..
i'm yet to find legal/pharmac substitutes for MDMA or weed. yet.
but weed can be flushed through (even a heavy user's) system in a couple of days. and one has a legal right to defer providing a sample for a few weeks, too. (they may remove this for the benficiaries though)

[mashman]

I can't be arsed with this zero sum game. It achieves nothing but create criminals out of every day people and taking their money away from them is going to do what exactly? Make them reconsider their wicked ways?

[scumdog]

I can't be arsed with this zero sum game. It achieves nothing but create criminals out of every day people and taking their money away from them is going to do what exactly? Make them reconsider their wicked ways?

No.
It will mean less $ paid out by the Gov't.
Simple

[Akzle]

It achieves nothing but create criminals out of every day people and taking their money away from them is going to do what exactly? Make them reconsider their wicked ways?

make jobs.

...for police.

[short-circuit]

No.
It will mean less $ paid out by the Gov't.
Simple

Three fifths of fuckall is still fuckall...except the social costs of stripping it away will manifest as major economic costs.

Meh - I await the bashlash.

[Akzle]

It will mean less $ paid out by the Gov't.

no it wont.
it's just reshuffling it. now the government will be paying (probably more than) for police anad court time, as well as potentially jailing
for these people who, my guess is, aren't going to go and get jobs just cos they've had their benefit cut off. when it's so much easier jut to take your shit and sell it.

[mashman]

No.
It will mean less $ paid out by the Gov't.
Simple

... you said it.

make jobs.

...for police.

be fair... we're paying for insulation to be fit into private houses. That creates jobs.

noooooo, surely not. Praps a pay rise for Polly's for saving the public no money at all and raising the prison population so that the bad bad benny is off the streets.