Can I avoid the registration ripoff by getting a dealer plate?

**bsasuper** · 22nd September 2012, 13:14

You cheap bastards, I cant wait till they bring in private third party injury cover, the scrap metal dealers will be laughing.

**rastuscat** · 22nd September 2012, 13:19

Originally Posted by Winston001

North of Kaikoura dropping off from 170k at moments - astonished glance at the speedo - through 200 only aware of when the bike gathered some air north of Kerenegu....

Kekerengu. Knob.

**Flip** · 22nd September 2012, 13:25

Round these parts (Otago) folk simply redg the bike as a farm vehicle. The secret is keepthe wof up to date.

When the rozza call the plate in the coms simply say both are current until bla bla, they have to look up in another page to see what the class of rego is. If it comes up with a old wof and a rego they then look into why it has rego and no wof.

**jellywrestler** · 22nd September 2012, 13:28

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Kekerengu. Knob.

Kekerengu is more of a peninsula than a Knob, knob!

**Akzle** · 22nd September 2012, 18:06

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

Neither your car nor your bike is actually a "hearse / non commercial ambulance".

but. it's "legally" "registered" as such... how can you say that?!

**FJRider** · 22nd September 2012, 18:15

Originally Posted by Flip

Round these parts (Otago) folk simply redg the bike as a farm vehicle. The secret is keepthe wof up to date.

Nothing new here ... the fella down the road from me has a 916 cc farm bike for his 10 acre block. Jantar has a 1250 one ...

**pzkpfw** · 22nd September 2012, 19:57

Originally Posted by Akzle

but. it's "legally" "registered" as such... how can you say that?!

As with the bloke who put a 400cc engine in his 250 and kept it registered as a 250, just because it's been got away with, does not actually make it legal. (Pre-LAMS issue).

If you really do have your bike registered as a hearse or non commercial ambulance, then it's something you've got away with so far, but that doesn't make it legal.

No more legal than all those folk mentioned in the new items I linked to earlier.

You may never get found out, you get away with it "forever". That doesn't make it "legal".

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/regi...-changing.html

Please be careful to choose the correct category as you could be fined if you licence your vehicle with a category which is not appropriate for your vehicle type and use.

**Akzle** · 22nd September 2012, 20:05

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

You may never get found out, you get away with it "forever". That doesn't make it "legal".

the devil is in the detail. if you read the legislation concerning driver licensing and vehicle registration, you will find, that "non commercial ambulance" is the only class that accurately describes one who is on the road without a license/ not acting in commerce... everything else, (private PASSENGER, ie) is actually a designation for a vehicle to be used for commercial gain, by the corporate person/"driver", and thus can be billed accordingly...

**pzkpfw** · 22nd September 2012, 20:18

Originally Posted by Akzle

the devil is in the detail. if you read the legislation concerning driver licensing and vehicle registration, you will find, that "non commercial ambulance" is the only class that accurately describes one who is on the road without a license/ not acting in commerce... everything else, (private PASSENGER, ie) is actually a designation for a vehicle to be used for commercial gain, by the corporate person/"driver", and thus can be billed accordingly...

Provide proof of the registration of your vehicle as such. Feel free to black-out the plate number and name/address.

Then provide proof that your registration of your vehicle as such has been approved by the authorities (i.e. go show it to a relevant person and see if they think it's fine).

Until then, I call bullshit.

**huff3r** · 23rd September 2012, 17:56

Originally Posted by Akzle

the devil is in the detail. if you read the legislation concerning driver licensing and vehicle registration, you will find, that "non commercial ambulance" is the only class that accurately describes one who is on the road without a license/ not acting in commerce... everything else, (private PASSENGER, ie) is actually a designation for a vehicle to be used for commercial gain, by the corporate person/"driver", and thus can be billed accordingly...

How would you know if you don't even recognise the laws of this country? Why is your vehicle registered at all?

**Akzle** · 23rd September 2012, 18:38

Originally Posted by huff3r

How would you know if you don't even recognise the laws of this country? Why is your vehicle registered at all?

good spotting!
(my 3 four wheelers are unrego, bike is only rego cos i bought it like that, if i can't get it reg'd as an ambulance i'll be unrego it.)

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

Until then, I call bullshit.

call what you like. as above, my cages aren't registered (they're not on the road f*ckall either)
i could probably find you someone in wellingtown who does exactly that, though. and i know a guy down auckland with his hilux, single cab flat deck, rego'd as non commercial ambulance, has been for the last decade, he's been stopped and questioned by cops plenty, too. always gets off with no mention of that "illegal" registration....

**jasonu** · 23rd September 2012, 19:16

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

Provide proof of the registration of your vehicle as such. Feel free to black-out the plate number and name/address.

Then provide proof that your registration of your vehicle as such has been approved by the authorities (i.e. go show it to a relevant person and see if they think it's fine).

Until then, I call bullshit.

Plus one to that. Total dickhead who thinks the rules don't apply to him. (unless there is some sort of personal gain to be had of course)

**ukusa** · 24th September 2012, 01:13

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

some people got away with registering their vehicles as Hearses for a while.

I bought a new import (car) for work last year, and the dealer put 6 months rego on it. When the renewal came after 6 months, the amount was for around $58 or so. On closer inspection the cheeky prick had registered it as a farm vehicle!

**Akzle** · 24th September 2012, 06:56

Originally Posted by jasonu

Plus one to that. Total dickhead who thinks the rules don't apply to him. (unless there is some sort of personal gain to be had of course)

"the rules"?
this one's been had before.

the LEGISLATION doesn't actually apply to any of you, if you're dumb enough to bow before a policy enforcement officer - that's when it starts to apply, but it's a game you haven't ben taught to play, so usually costs you time and money, while they (cops, lawyers, legislators, judges) keep going to the bank.
policy enforcement officers aren't taught this either, they're taught to enforce policy, so to derive a benefit from what i know i use their own rules (legislation, which the police ARE bound by, given that it created them) against them.
as far as the OTHER "benefit" i get from the government: they pay off the fines that their agents have created.
that's the game.
that's their game.
i know it, i play it, I win.

("benefit" in inverted commas, because if they hadn't created the fines in the first place they wouldn't need to pay them off, thus it's not actually a benefit to me, but a nett loss to the country.
good game. good game.)