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    Ha, I concur Scuba Steve. On the brightside, driving all night to the track will be very comfortable & you will wake up fresh on arrival.

    Don't worry too much, though. We shan't be here to see it become reality. Many decades of meat controlled internal combustion ahead of us.

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    If the motorways are full of self-driving cars, they probably won't want self-controlled bikes mixed in.

    The nice orderly predictable flow would be upset by the bikes weaving between lanes or lane splitting.

    I can foresee a time when all transport is computer controlled and bikes etc are gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    If the motorways are full of self-driving cars, they probably won't want self-controlled bikes mixed in.

    The nice orderly predictable flow would be upset by the bikes weaving between lanes or lane splitting.

    I can foresee a time when all transport is computer controlled and bikes etc are gone.
    Love the way you used self-driving and self-controlled to mean opposite things.

    As long as the cars can adjust for the bikes then these things could make riding easier as their actions will be more predictable.
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    They could make big ones an call them,,,,,, buss's an trains.

    Next thing you know,,,,,,public transport.

    I mean they might as well,,self driving cars sound about as much fun as riding the bus,plus you could spend your time on the new improved public transport looking for seth efrikens to mug,thus killing the boredom factor.

    Future sure looks interesting for the new age commuter

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    Soon there will be,
    a forward sensing unit built into bike headlights that access the road/corner/traffic ahead, and adjust the bikes speed to a 'safe' speed.
    An advancement on this will be an upgrade to reconize adverse weather, known to increase the risk of motorcycle accidents, so will either limit the machines speed, or block the engine from starting.

    Also on the horizon, is a chip embedded into the helmet chin piece that detects if the rider has been drinking, and thus immobillises the engine.

    A micro chip built into the Hi Viz vest that has to log in to the bikes computer, in order to engage the gearbox.


    Anything I've missed??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Road kill View Post
    They could make big ones an call them,,,,,, buss's an trains.

    Next thing you know,,,,,,public transport.

    I mean they might as well,,self driving cars sound about as much fun as riding the bus,plus you could spend your time on the new improved public transport looking for seth efrikens to mug,thus killing the boredom factor.

    Future sure looks interesting for the new age commuter
    Not everyone that takes their car does so because they want to drive, some of them want the independence of route, time of travel and goods transport. Therefore self-driving cars would suit these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post
    Soon there will be,
    a forward sensing unit built into bike headlights that access the road/corner/traffic ahead, and adjust the bikes speed to a 'safe' speed.
    An advancement on this will be an upgrade to reconize adverse weather, known to increase the risk of motorcycle accidents, so will either limit the machines speed, or block the engine from starting.

    Also on the horizon, is a chip embedded into the helmet chin piece that detects if the rider has been drinking, and thus immobillises the engine.

    A micro chip built into the Hi Viz vest that has to log in to the bikes computer, in order to engage the gearbox.


    Anything I've missed??
    Gets harder with the bike doesn't it? What if the forward facing sensor decides the bike needs to slow down to avoid something ahead but you have lent over for to go around it. The calculation on whether or not to slow down or let the rider go round it get more complicated and as the rider still has some control of the bike and humans are unpredictable. The computer control could then end up as another danger factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    It's comin, personally I think it's great. I would guess the vehicles will end up along the lines of Aerospace standard with equally rigorous maintenance schedules. If the driver is blameless in an accident because he ain't driving, liability will fall on the manufacturer so all the systems will be A1 & the vehicles will probably share info so they can "see" a lot further ahead.
    Even better, the layout of the vehicles is endless, no more steering wheel, pedals, drivers seat etc. You could sleep all the way to work, while queuing on the motorway. Drink all the way home, give the secretary one while your "dropping her off". Stay in bed & let the car take the kids to school. Not be to long before they become mobile apartments.
    that sounds so profitable...
    (i'll stick the the handlebars or steering wheel...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    Gets harder with the bike doesn't it? What if the forward facing sensor decides the bike needs to slow down to avoid something ahead but you have lent over for to go around it. The calculation on whether or not to slow down or let the rider go round it get more complicated and as the rider still has some control of the bike and humans are unpredictable. The computer control could then end up as another danger factor.
    Don't worry about it, your safety stabilizers will solve that for ya... and to counteract you going one way and the bike going the other, the safety should harness will shorten on one side and pull you in the same direction as the bike. Easy peasy
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Don't worry about it, your safety stabilizers will solve that for ya... and to counteract you going one way and the bike going the other, the safety should harness will shorten on one side and pull you in the same direction as the bike. Easy peasy
    And of course the protective cage the harness is attached to will stop you getting hurt should something, like an animal, hits you. Add one or more wheels for the stabilizers to work with.
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    let me know when they start forging them in the white heat of racing. With no occupant safety concerns a demo derby race could see speeds in excess of 200kmhr, albeit briefly
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    And of course the protective cage the harness is attached to will stop you getting hurt should something, like an animal, hits you. Add one or more wheels for the stabilizers to work with.
    Cage, cage... wouldn't that be just like being in one of them car things that still see the vast majority of deaths on NZ's roads each year irrespective of safety features? Perhaps a dead mans switch activated full body foam armor suit for them motorcycle types. Although, would that encourage people to crash more often?
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Surely They'll integrate into society more slowly than electric cars so I think Motorcycles and our enjoyment of them is safe for a couple of generations yet.
    A brilliant and predictable future for large cities' commuter hotspots but still manufactures of these devices will sell millions (eventually) while city planners fail to design new residential zones for public transport effectivness...
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    etiquette? treat it like every other vehicle on the road, assume they are a blind, ignorant brainless cunt who is out to kill you, and ride accordingly

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    Love the way you used self-driving and self-controlled to mean opposite things.

    As long as the cars can adjust for the bikes then these things could make riding easier as their actions will be more predictable.
    Actually I just didn't want to use "self-driving" in the motorbike context, to stop someone complaining about usage of "driving" vs "riding".

    And while the cars will be able to adjust for bikes, I don't think the "authorities" will want them to have to. After all, if the cars are all self-driving and because of that there are fewer crashes (and less cost to the nation) but self-controlled bikes still crash (perhaps causing "innocent" cars to crash too) - they'll add two and two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madandy View Post
    Surely They'll integrate into society more slowly than electric cars so I think Motorcycles and our enjoyment of them is safe for a couple of generations yet.
    A brilliant and predictable future for large cities' commuter hotspots but still manufactures of these devices will sell millions (eventually) while city planners fail to design new residential zones for public transport effectivness...
    Na I think we'll see them integrate much faster, electric cars are already post 100yrs & still not integrated. I expect to see self drive much sooner than that
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