Full gear all the time?

[koz3lla]

As a relative noob having only been riding for 6 years I've just recently invested in a one piece Dainese suit and full on road boots.
Which I proceeded to have a graceful slide in at Ruapuna the following week.
Was only doing about 60km around the corner and I can only imagine how much more it might have hurt should I not have been wearing it along with my full cuff gloves (one of which is stuffed now btw).

I ride everyday, comes with not having a car, and I am AGATT!! Even if I'm just off to the supermarket for hashbrowns on a Sunday morning.
I've never come off on the road but at least if I do I'll have all my gear on.
And we all know what Murphys law is like, the one day you don't wear it will be the day you get T-boned, or worse.

[jrandom]

I proceeded to have a graceful slide in at Ruapuna.

Well, yes, one doesn't ride at the track without gear.

And we all know what Murphys law is like, the one day you don't wear it will be the day you get T-boned, or worse.

Yep, the fact that you see things in that light indicates that you should indeed still be wearing gear all the time.

[Berries]

Please ignore the blatant DRIBBLE that jrandom has posted!.

S'funny. Most of the time I think jrandom is a twat from what he posts, but in this thread I find myself agreeing with him almost absolutely. if you think you are going to be falling off then seriously, get a car and save yourself the pain and grief, and save me from increased ACC levies at the same time.

[Drew]

Jrandom is full of shit. He would have suggested a Volvo to the ATGATT scardy cats, if he knew anything.

[mossy1200]

Lets face it you dont want to look like a scooter owner when you stop.

This is why I wear all my leathers when I ride.

[willytheekid]

S'funny. Most of the time I think jrandom is a twat from what he posts, but in this thread I find myself agreeing with him almost absolutely. if you think you are going to be falling off then seriously, get a car and save yourself the pain and grief, and save me from increased ACC levies at the same time.

...where did I imply that I think I'm going to be falling off?.(I did alot of that 30yrs ago when I started riding...didn't really want to continue the habit)

And how hard is it to figure out ATGATT is common sense?
...it doesn't matter how great a rider you think are...it doesn't make the other road users any better drivers!

...and good gear can be the difference between walking away from an incident...or being carried away!

And its us ATGATT guys who ARE already saving motorcyclists ACC levies by being prepared for the possible dangers...not ignorant of them.

[jrandom]

Jrandom is full of shit. He would have suggested a Volvo to the ATGATT scardy cats, if he knew anything.

Nawww, new Toyotas are as safe as it gets. The only point of difference these days with Volvos is that they're luxury cars.

[jrandom]

where did I imply that I think I'm going to be falling off?

Round about here:

ATGATT is common sense

[caseye]

"Ride your own ride" been something I've told newbies since, forever.
I ride with the usual stuff, helmet, jacket,gloves, motorbike riding boots.
If I'm commuting I usually wear me Rhino's ( Kevlar lined heavy denim trou) and sometimes, usually summertime I will use my old cordura jacket.
If I'm going outa town I put on me leather trou to go with my now matching leather jacket ( cheers again Quasi)
I don't anticipate putting myself off the road, just taking what responsibility I can for myself and allowing that if I do get taken out and manage to avoid any of those sudden deceleration impacts that there's a good chance I'll be having to go buy some more gear.
Not a coffin or worse a long term stay in the hospital.
To me it is inconvenient to have to suit up, even to go down the road, but the only times I haven't have been the times I should have, so to make sure I get as much bang for my safety gear buck as I can I take the time and put up with the heat and the moaning ( yeah, I grumble at myself) and I ride knowing I'm doing what I can to mitigate any unforeseen circumstance.
For me it's a similar thing to taking on a 90 degree corner over a brow at speed and not knowing which way the road goes, I ease off the throttle long enough to see which way it goes and then apply more to go through nice and clean, no fuss, no drama.
JR, I understand what you are saying and I'd not try to tell you what to wear or not, nor would I say I told you so if it it turned to custard, but there are not that many riders out there who have and continue to do what you are advocating who have come all the way through without having a bad experience of one sort or another.
Just spent the last week in Oz, I saw a hell of a lot more bike riders using sensible gear this time around than ever I've seen there before,( Once a year every year for the last 20 yrs) seems the message is getting home, their roads are predominantly concrete and ribbed,that really does take the bark off quick.

[Drew]

Nawww, new Toyotas are as safe as it gets. The only point of difference these days with Volvos is that they're luxury cars.

Watch out for the doors catching fire though.

Toyota Recalls 7.4 Million Vehicles For Faulty Power-Window Switch

[jrandom]

Watch out for the doors catching fire though.

True, I'd forgotten about that. I expect Toyota forums around the world are currently ablaze with the ATGATT question, too.

[scumdog]

S'funny. Most of the time I think jrandom is a twat from what he posts, but in this thread I find myself agreeing with him almost absolutely. if you think you are going to be falling off then seriously, get a car and save yourself the pain and grief, and save me from increased ACC levies at the same time.

Zactly

[Ocean1]

S'funny. Most of the time I think jrandom is a twat from what he posts, but in this thread I find myself agreeing with him almost absolutely.

Nah, he's just parroting the currently fashionable biker behavioural safety dogma.

It suggests that if you just believe hard enough and try hard enough then you’d be perfectly safe.

Cold, hard statistical facts suggest otherwise. I don’t give a flying fuck how good you are, if you ride long enough you’ll get tagged eventually.

I can only suggest the one true faith click their collective heels together and disappear up their own solipsistic arsehole.

[Berries]

...where did I imply that I think I'm going to be falling off?.

Sorry, it was the royal you, not you personally.

And how hard is it to figure out ATGATT is common sense?

Not riding a bike is the common sense position if you are that concerned about safety.

And its us ATGATT guys who ARE already saving motorcyclists ACC levies by being prepared for the possible dangers...not ignorant of them.

No. First and foremost it is the people who don't crash who are saving money. What gear you are wearing comes way down the list.

I don’t give a flying fuck how good you are, if you ride long enough you’ll get tagged eventually.

If that really was true, who would ride a bike? I certainly wouldn't if there was some kind of guarantee of getting hurt.

[jrandom]

I don’t give a flying fuck how good you are, if you ride long enough you’ll get tagged eventually.

http://www.toyota.co.nz/great-offers

That's just simply not true, man. It's a false statement. If you can get up one day and go to bed again without falling off your bike, there's no reason not to do it every day of your life.