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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    If you knew about the many hassles and dramas running ( as one example )standard front fork ''outers'' you'd have a different opinion.
    If you're referring to after market handle bars squeezing the forks...maybe we need stock handle bars too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    If you're referring to after market handle bars squeezing the forks...maybe we need stock handle bars too!
    Hahahaha.

    It's not common for good quality bars to cause a problem in seriousness. It is common that standard bars don't have the adjustments required to get the most for a rider though. It is also common, that OEM anything, costs more than aftermarket. How does that bring costs down for the little guys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Hahahaha.

    It's not common for good quality bars to cause a problem in seriousness. It is common that standard bars don't have the adjustments required to get the most for a rider though. It is also common, that OEM anything, costs more than aftermarket. How does that bring costs down for the little guys?
    I think you need to be abundantly more of the issues on this one point before commenting. Im not going to spend half an hour typing to elaborate though, start dredging

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    If you're referring to after market handle bars squeezing the forks...maybe we need stock handle bars too!
    In fact that is only one issue of many with oem forks. The other standout issue is their lack of rigidity, especially under braking, and how it binds the bushings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    In fact that is only one issue of many with oem forks. The other standout issue is their lack of rigidity, especially under braking, and how it binds the bushings.
    So if it's that's what the production model wears _ then I woulda thought, so be it..............
    It's OK to disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    In fact that is only one issue of many with oem forks. The other standout issue is their lack of rigidity, especially under braking, and how it binds the bushings.
    All good. Just doing a bit of Sunday arvo fishing. Did you like the pic I emailed you of Rach with Lorenzo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Hahahaha.

    . How does that bring costs down for the little guys?
    It doesn't. It just keeps me amused while I wait for this arvo's GP.

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    It's OK to disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.

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    I'm loving this live viewing in something approximating our own timezone. Using the MotoGP site and Apple TV I can see it live on the big screen. Eight minutes to the start of the main event.

    Hope my data allowance is big enough to cover the three meetings although if Sky cover PI live I should be OK.
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    Free to air over here.....having lunch and watching bike racing.....great. Moto 2 was good - looks like Marquez will be a good replacement for Stoner.
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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    Shit - I wouldn't want to be in Crutchlow's pit.........!
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    looks like Marquez will be a good replacement for Stoner.

    I reckon. Just needs to clean his act up bit is all. Mean slice back through the pack eh!


    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Shit - I wouldn't want to be in Crutchlow's pit.........!
    Reckon. Fucking hell..Bautista should take back his moaning about Stoner from Mugello. He put some pretty hard moves on Crutchlow. Not that I have an issue with any of them.

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    Gutted for Cal, was really hoping that he would be able to get that second podium. All though Alvaro getting the last podium spot was pretty good. They may have been some hard passes on Cal, but hey, its racing. From what I saw they were all good, and Cal was giving back everything that he got until he ran out of gas.........

    Nice to see Dani get another win. Just need to get someone else between him and Lorenzo. Which leads me to...........

    .............I had high hopes for Ben this weekend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, far fetched hopes maybe, but hey, one can hope. To be honest I was really looking forward to seeing him get between Dani and Jorge. That would have been awesome. But instead does one lap, over cooks turn one and gets knocked on his ass by a wall. It seems like he's definitely got the speed, you can see that with QP, his biggest problem right now seems to be his lack of consistency. As is, he's not really competitive with the alien top 3-4, but watch out if he manages to find that consistency next year.............................................. ...but next year he'll be on the Ducati.

    Looking at Rossi and Hayden's performance tonight I would say that they new frame and swingarm haven't made that much of a difference. I guess Misano really was a bit of a fluke. Bummer.
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    Just back at the hotel after an awesome day at Motegi GP. Love it here. Was my 3rd Japan GP in 5 years.
    Kent - well done after an epic Moto 3. Last lap madness and Salom - brain freeze. Cortese - what a dick - but glad to see him since apologise. Also as an aside those Moto3's actually sound fuckin' wicked live. Squadron of WWII bombers sure beats the annoying chainsaws of 125 2strokes.
    Marquez. What can you say. That start line stall was scary. I had visions of a Simoncelli hit and dead all over again! Somehow he came through most of the pack in the first lap!! (Like he did a few years ago in 125).
    MotoGP - respect. They are so loud and fast. Watching them live down the back straight of Motegi is a sight to behold. Even our beloved CRT's are awesome in the flesh!
    Extra comments. Japanese are such foodies. My god the quality and selection of food available at the circuit. On the circuit tv they even have features about the different food for sale. Can't see that with greasy chips or hotdogs available in NZ.
    Don't know if they ever showed some of the flag marshals when no racing - but some of them are crowd entertainers with little shows they perform when quiet. The marshals at Victory Corner (last corner) got the crowd in the grandstands to do a Mexican wave - leading by example.
    Brilliant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by denill View Post
    So if it's that's what the production model wears _ then I woulda thought, so be it..............
    But production bikes are by no means race ready, in spite of all the marketing BS such as ''race bred suspension '' etc etc ad infinitum. Honda own a major suspension company Showa. Notably that same company makes racing spec forks. Why? Because they know that their production spec forks are in reality not up to the task.
    The issues with production spec forks are numerous, the engineers know that, they know the frustrations and limitations with them. The rulemakers ( who all too often have the technical nous of a guinea pig ) dont

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