Fuck our legal system

[Parlane]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...in-deportation

Can someone find the relevant thread?

"disqualified him from driving for 18 months."
"Ahmed was ordered to pay his victim - Jonathan Meech - $10,000 "
"sentenced to six months home detention and may face deportation"

The best thing would be if we did deport him. Think I am being harsh?

"seriously injured a motorcyclist when driving the wrong way down an Auckland motorway during a drunken night of madness"

"seriously injured" in this case is the guy lost his leg.

[Asher]

I also heard yesterday that "boyracer" who hit and killed that guy then ran in Hornby got home detention. Court system for the win.

[imdying]

He's a Muslim, he'll understand entirely why we have to behead him.

Seriously, I can see absolutely no reason whatsoever that he should not be killed for his actions. What that piece of shit is doing remaining in the country, who fucking knows.

[oneofsix]

He's a Muslim, he'll understand entirely why we have to behead him.

Seriously, I can see absolutely no reason whatsoever that he should not be killed for his actions. What that piece of shit is doing remaining in the country, who fucking knows.

Me confused, I thought devout Muslims weren't allowed alcohol.
Send him back and let them "rehabilitate" him

[imdying]

Nah, I care not for whether he can be 'fixed' or not.

Same as that other piece of shit on the news last night. We will hold him in a psychiatric ward until a Minister of Health says let him out? Presumably nobody is going to want to commit that sort of career suicide, so that means 40 years at 100k a piece, or 4 million dollars. Or the regsitration for 6000 motorcyclists for a year. His life is no longer worth 6000 bike registrations, the only intelligent thing to do is to kill him now. I'll even supply the bullet and pull the trigger, although I dare say I'm in a pretty long line.

[Parlane]

He's a Muslim, he'll understand entirely why we have to behead him.

Seriously, I can see absolutely no reason whatsoever that he should not be killed for his actions. What that piece of shit is doing remaining in the country, who fucking knows.

From the article it sounds like he will face hardship if he were to go home and his family has disowned him for being a drunk fuck.

I see no reason for that to stop us deporting him...

[Banditbandit]

Me confused, I thought devout Muslims weren't allowed alcohol.

THey are not .. who said he was devout? Just like Christians are not allowed sex outside marriage ...

[imdying]

THey are not .. who said he was devout? Just like Christians are not allowed sex outside marriage ...

Second word of the article.

[imdying]

From the article it sounds like he will face hardship if he were to go home and his family has disowned him for being a drunk fuck.

I see no reason for that to stop us deporting him...

Ahhhh, the religion of forgiveness

[Banditbandit]

Second word of the article.

OK ... didn't read it (my bad) ... but his actions question hs "devoutness" ...

[imdying]

He's a member of the hypocritical boys club, what did you expect

[nathanwhite]

Ok. I'll play the devils advocate.

Yes, what he did was horrible. Yes, A life is forever altered because of his actions. Yes, our court system hands out more bus tickets then the busses do themselves. But behead him? Really? He's going to have a hard time enough now regardless of what legal actions happen to him. His family has cut him off. Criminal convictions means a new job is nigh impossible.

From the article he is shown as a decent hardworking fellow (regardless of whether or not he actually is.)
He has to pay the victim 10k. While supporting himself, how long is he going to be paying that for?
6 Months at home. Ie, not working.

What he did was atrocious, but do you think he will ever drink again? Do you think he will ever truly forget what he has done?

Consider this. His victim is still alive. He is still there for his family. He can still work a job. (Provided it's not standing up) For all I know he might be in cronic pain, but he is still here.

I am all for stoning the gulty. However for this is a person who has done something once, and regretted it after. I think the punishment is not excessive.
It is repeat offenders I have no tolerance for. If he does it again, hang, draw and quarter him.

[Str8 Jacket]

Ok. I'll play the devils advocate.

Yes, what he did was horrible. Yes, A life is forever altered because of his actions. Yes, our court system hands out more bus tickets then the busses do themselves. But behead him? Really? He's going to have a hard time enough now regardless of what legal actions happen to him. His family has cut him off. Criminal convictions means a new job is nigh impossible.

From the article he is shown as a decent hardworking fellow (regardless of whether or not he actually is.)
He has to pay the victim 10k. While supporting himself, how long is he going to be paying that for?
6 Months at home. Ie, not working.

What he did was atrocious, but do you think he will ever drink again? Do you think he will ever truly forget what he has done?

Consider this. His victim is still alive. He is still there for his family. He can still work a job. (Provided it's not standing up) For all I know he might be in cronic pain, but he is still here.

I am all for stoning the gulty. However for this is a person who has done something once, and regretted it after. I think the punishment is not excessive.
It is repeat offenders I have no tolerance for. If he does it again, hang, draw and quarter him.

Whilst I get what you are saying people really need to to stop and think if they have drunk too much to drive, or not. Individuals need to take responsibility for what MAY happen and in this case did. The whole point of the advertising campaigns etc is to warn people to not drink and drive as this exact thing may happen and it could happen to anyone.
Personal responsibility, it may catch on one day.

[skippa1]

Ok. I'll play the devils advocate.

Yes, what he did was horrible. Yes, A life is forever altered because of his actions. Yes, our court system hands out more bus tickets then the busses do themselves. But behead him? Really?

ok then....semi behead? Like not quite off

[nathanwhite]

Whilst I get what you are saying people really need to to stop and think if they have drunk too much to drive, or not. Individuals need to take responsibility for what MAY happen and in this case did. The whole point of the advertising campaigns etc is to warn people to not drink and drive as this exact thing may happen and it could happen to anyone.
Personal responsibility, it may catch on one day.

Agreed. He got himself into a situation where he was not in control of his actions. The problem is that he didn't have people around him to stop him from driving. Personal responsibility is admirable, however it takes a regular drinker to know that they are intoxicated and good friends to stop a drunk person from driving.

ok then....semi behead? Like not quite off

Haircut? maybe a little skin too?