MotoGP 2012

[Robert Taylor]

You would think,with Ohlins being the best and all,,that you wouldn't need to advertise or promote it at all. It would literally sell itself, like Big Macs or Blonds with big tits. But that obviously isn't the case at all. Go figure?

I take the opportunity to promote it here as I see fit. Some people may not like that, but there is choice of what you buy and where you buy it. Point of fact Ohlins are not visible in the sense of loud stickers ( or in fact any stickers ) on WSS600, WSBK and MotoGP bikes ( ie most of those bikes ) Why? Because they are a successful company that sells the best product to nearly all of the teams and also sell a service contract to the most committed and well financed teams. Its a business, not sponsorship.

MotoX riders here in NZ would do well to learn that concept

As of next year Ohlins are selling and backing up supply of dampers to one of the top five Formula 1 car teams. I.e selling product and service. Were they to place one only regular small Ohlins sticker on the car they would have to pay the team 1 million euro.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

As of next year Ohlins are selling and backing up supply of dampers to one of the top five Formula 1 car teams. I.e selling product and service. Were they to place one only regular small Ohlins sticker on the car they would have to pay the team 1 million euro.

I've got a KSS sticker on my bike Rob, I'll take 1% of the F1 fee. Have you still got my bank details?

[Crasherfromwayback]

MotoX riders here in NZ would do well to learn that concept

.

Like this...

[Brian d marge]

I dont know where you got that from? But in WSS600 this year he has kicked ass and is already the champion. Ohlins TTX36 Mark 2 rear, Ohlins TTX25 gas charged cartridges and Ohlins steering damper. No trickery and exactly what is available to and used by the very top racers here. Excepting the springs they use are very closely calibrated, but we could also buy those, albeit at a higher price than the regular range.
Moreover this is sold by Ohlins to teams at the going rate, no sponsorship and no silly unsustainable pricing. Other manufacturers could learn from that.

Passing comment from engineer friend over here , pretty sure I remembered it correctly, Sofologs bike was all yellow if thats any help. I didnt give it much thought at the time ( and it was one or two or more years ago)

Stephen

[Robert Taylor]

I've got a KSS sticker on my bike Rob, I'll take 1% of the F1 fee. Have you still got my bank details?

That sticker compensates for the great deal you got!

[Robert Taylor]

Like this...

Youre in the industry and I didnt have to prostitute myself to both rebuild / respec your shocks and give you a good deal!

My off the cuff comment about puddle jumpers raises a whole industry problem ''Hey I got second place at the local trail ride and Im the next big thing after Shayne King and Ben Townley. If you sponsor me with cheap bikes and gear ( that you will make no money on or make a loss on ) I will run your stickers and sell lots of bikes for you''.

The reality of course in 99% of cases works out a whole lot less rosy than that. Everyone that rides MX wants a hell deal and many dealers that come and go ( probably because of same ) are prepared to do so, until they work out that over the big picture this is actually costing them a lot of money and time and very negatively impacting on their balance sheets.

The true costs of running an MX bike are distorted or ''buried in the mire'' by this inter generational expectation that dealers should make no money for little Johnie to get his weekend fix. This is all not too far from the cold hard truth despite my cynicism.

[Robert Taylor]

Passing comment from engineer friend over here , pretty sure I remembered it correctly, Sofologs bike was all yellow if thats any help. I didnt give it much thought at the time ( and it was one or two or more years ago)

Stephen

Ok, if he was using something tricky it wasnt working for him!

[denill]

Youre in the industry and I didnt have to prostitute myself to both rebuild / respec your shocks and give you a good deal!

My off the cuff comment about puddle jumpers raises a whole industry problem ''Hey I got second place at the local trail ride and Im the next big thing after Shayne King and Ben Townley. If you sponsor me with cheap bikes and gear ( that you will make no money on or make a loss on ) I will run your stickers and sell lots of bikes for you''.

The reality of course in 99% of cases works out a whole lot less rosy than that. Everyone that rides MX wants a hell deal and many dealers that come and go ( probably because of same ) are prepared to do so, until they work out that over the big picture this is actually costing them a lot of money and time and very negatively impacting on their balance sheets.

The true costs of running an MX bike are distorted or ''buried in the mire'' by this inter generational expectation that dealers should make no money for little Johnie to get his weekend fix. This is all not too far from the cold hard truth despite my cynicism.

Oh oh, so VERY true. Many, many dealers have in the past been burnt VERY badly by Little Johnie.

[Reckless]

NOW back on topic boyz

[Drew]

As of next year Ohlins are selling and backing up supply of dampers to one of the top five Formula 1 car teams. I.e selling product and service. Were they to place one only regular small Ohlins sticker on the car they would have to pay the team 1 million euro.

I've got a KSS sticker on my bike Rob, I'll take 1% of the F1 fee. Have you still got my bank details?

I've just scored a new set of forks, with a Dukic sticker on each one.

What you offering, for me to take said stickers off?

[Robert Taylor]

I've just scored a new set of forks, with a Dukic sticker on each one.

What you offering, for me to take said stickers off?

They will send you skidding down the road and abrade the stickers off. Hope you didnt pay too much for them!

[Drew]

They will send you skidding down the road and abrade the stickers off. Hope you didnt pay too much for them!

Don't misunderstand me here fella. I bought a complete front end, the stickers were on it already.

[BMWST?]

You would think,with Ohlins being the best and all,,that you wouldn't need to advertise or promote it at all. It would literally sell itself, like Big Macs or Blonds with big tits. But that obviously isn't the case at all. Go figure?

you must live in another world than me,macdonalds is advertised absolutely everywhere,and we are hardwired for the other

[BMWST?]

i just did a lttle number crunching.Dani has to win all three races AND Jorge has to get two thirds and a fourth to lose it.

[steveyb]

I've just scored a new set of forks, with a Dukic sticker on each one.

What you offering, for me to take said stickers off?

Whatever, nothing will help you, you know that. Anything else is just dreamin' mate.